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  1. #81
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    Eisen-Zorn's Avatar
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    Daeya Star
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    We players of FFXIV have hit what I like to refer to as the Hamster Wheel of Progression.

    Imagine a maze where you're progressing to find your way. You explore a bit and find a lot of interesting paths that give you a lot of new and shiny rewards. However, all paths lead back to a single path that is blocked by a door with a large timer on it. Next to this door is a large hamster wheel. With all paths traveled and all rewards gained, the only action your left with is to run in the hamster wheel until the door finally opens. The hamster wheel makes you stronger and prepares you for when the door will open, but, at the end of the day, you're still just running in place while you're waiting to progress.

    Then the door opens, you explore once more, and finally come to another door. What's next to that door? Another hamster wheel.

    There will always be a hamster wheel.
    (3)

  2. #82
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    Picori's Avatar
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    Picori Shadow
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    Behemoth
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    When game first came out end game was just two dungeons AK, ands WP, 3 hard mode primals, and one raid.
    This end game we have two dungeons, two raids as (normal and hard,) and two EX Primals.
    Just wait tell more patches are out. Like 3.1 is relic what I'm sure keep people busy, 24 man raid and beast man quests.
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  3. #83
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    RedAntares's Avatar
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    Vanilla Pancake
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    While I understand what you are trying to say OP, I think it all depends on how you play the game and what you enjoy from it. I was like you a couple of months ago when they released the NIN job, but since Heavensward came, there's so much to do in the game that I'm enjoying it quite a lot, I'm not rushing things and taking my time to smell the roses so to speak, trying some of the new classes, looking for new ways to do better skill rotations with the new skills, and trying to get better at tanking with DRK.

    While you may be bored with the game already, there are other players that still have loads of content to do and still enjoy the game, I still have other classes to lvl to 60, while getting new gear for each one, still need to do Ravana EX for the Hive weapon that I want, haven't done a single floor on Alexander, and I'm planning on finally doing coils so I can enjoy the story in there, as you can see, I still have other stuff to keep me from getting bored, but if you already burned the content in less than 2 months, well... you could always take a rest from the game and come back when they release the next big update.
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    Last edited by RedAntares; 08-01-2015 at 01:45 AM.

  4. #84
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    Seryl199's Avatar
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    Delferia Seule
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Picori View Post
    When game first came out end game was just two dungeons AK, ands WP, 3 hard mode primals, and one raid.
    This end game we have two dungeons, two raids as (normal and hard,) and two EX Primals.
    Just wait tell more patches are out. Like 3.1 is relic what I'm sure keep people busy, 24 man raid and beast man quests.
    This is pretty much where I'm at. I can't wait for the relic and beast man quests to be nice time sinks. It's just jarring to feel like the slate was wiped clean and there are few activities to do once reaching level 60. I know the content I'll enjoy is on the way, and once it's here, more FC members will be raid ready and I'll have plenty to do.
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  5. #85
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The biggest problem is that there is NOT much to do at endgame. Expert Roulette should be at least 4-5 dungeons to cycle!! They should have split low level xp and high level xp roulette to give some variety. There is not much of way capping your esoteric, unless your idea of fun is doing the same TWO dungeons, EVERY DAY (well 4 days a week, for 3 more months before patch 3.1). All they need to do is adding esoteric to ALL previous content 2.0-2.55, but only if you run that same old content as your level 60 jobs. That would suddenly open a huge amount of variety of things to do, granted they are OLD content - but it's better than farming esoteric on 2 dungeons..
    (2)

  6. #86
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    Mhikail's Avatar
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    Kayu Lynette
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    The climb is part of the reward.
    But Yoshi told us that end-game is where it begins.
    It where it begins to end because it's so damn stale who can stomach it anymore?
    The leveling is the cupcakes, the end of it all is the cake. The big sha-bang and now look at it lol.
    I'm very casual. If I do things gear wise, I do it for glamour. I hope that the rest of your post wasn't directed at me by the way.
    (2)

  7. #87
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    I think the game has enough content. It takes much more time to create content than it does to play through it, so there must be some repetition. Just mix things up as best you can. You can get tomestones without doing the expert dungeons at all, through trials, raids and pvp.
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  8. #88
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I think the game has enough content. It takes much more time to create content than it does to play through it, so there must be some repetition. Just mix things up as best you can. You can get tomestones without doing the expert dungeons at all, through trials, raids and pvp.
    PVP only works if they get rid of the stupidity that is GC restriction. What raid? Alexander normal, since they add more items, you probably do it 8-10 times a week, or even less if you don't care which loot you are getting. Extreme Primals is not on DF, and most players are too dumb to clear this, to become a farming activity. Simply adding Esoteric on ALL content in 2.0-2.55 would solve this mind numbing grinding and give more variety of NOT having to do expert roulette every day (maybe 2-3 times a week max).

    I would be fine to log in and play simply to cap esoteric, if they add MORE ways to earn the esoteric, right now expert roulette gives the most bonus. Adding a bonus of 50 esoteric on high level roulette would solve this problem, as well as adding 5-30 esoteric on ALL older dungeons, you can only get it if you run it as your level 60 character.

    A faster way to cap esoteric in less than 3 days only doing variety of duty finder roulette would be great. I don't need to play the game every day for 7 hours straight. Just a variety of things to do, in 3 days or so, to cap things fast, then can do other stuffs without feeling "oh I forgot to cap my esoteric for the week". Could not care less about law tomes.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 08-01-2015 at 03:15 AM.

  9. #89
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    Seryl199's Avatar
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    Delferia Seule
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhikail View Post
    I'm very casual. If I do things gear wise, I do it for glamour. I hope that the rest of your post wasn't directed at me by the way.
    I'm really starving for glamour myself, I'm still running the Bogatyr healer robe that I've been glamoured in for what must be near 5 months now. The Astrologian Esoteric gear is phenomenal, but of course, locked behind Esoterics.
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  10. #90
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    Madruck's Avatar
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    Vancleef Arpels
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    Aegis
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    The biggest problem is that there is NOT much to do at endgame. Expert Roulette should be at least 4-5 dungeons to cycle!! They should have split low level xp and high level xp roulette to give some variety. There is not much of way capping your esoteric, unless your idea of fun is doing the same TWO dungeons, EVERY DAY (well 4 days a week, for 3 more months before patch 3.1). All they need to do is adding esoteric to ALL previous content 2.0-2.55, but only if you run that same old content as your level 60 jobs. That would suddenly open a huge amount of variety of things to do, granted they are OLD content - but it's better than farming esoteric on 2 dungeons..
    Luv....but the most dedicated Knights or fanboys dont get it.....we arent asking for anything so new that it took months to craft, we just want more than 2 dungeons to run for our eso grind but again they tend not to understand this! I just want variety like we had in patch 2.5, I mean come on and lets be honest.....how do you compare having 17 possible dungeons to grind in patch 2.5 at max level to now only having 2? Really?!?! Can anyone please explain that so it makes sense for me other than state o its a new expansion or that you can still do those level 50 dungeons and content.....I dont want to do level 50 content....my job is level 60 and I do not want to run stuff that makes me either lose all my abilities I spent the time to earn or do a overgeared run so all I have to do is look at the mob and they die.....how is this not boring to people doing only 2 dungeons for Esoterics? I personally believe that either your lying that it isnt boring for you or you are that hardcore of a fanboy or white knight that you see nothing wrong with this. I just dont get it......
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