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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    We would never, in a cutscene, draw our weapons and mutilate an NPC for a multitude of reasons:


    1) We are, in essence, chaotic-good.
    2) I'm sure for job-lore/RP purposes, having a White Mage or Scholar draw their weapon and murder an NPC would be odd.

    The work around is, anyone who we do kill has to be a combatant whom attacks us or threatens to harm others.
    Doesn't mean the WoL doesn't enjoy revenge. One of the dialogue options after the Vault was something like "I'll tear out Zephirin's heart for what he did. A life for a life."
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    We would never, in a cutscene, draw our weapons and mutilate an NPC for a multitude of reasons:


    1) We are, in essence, chaotic-good.
    2) I'm sure for job-lore/RP purposes, having a White Mage or Scholar draw their weapon and murder an NPC would be odd.

    The work around is, anyone who we do kill has to be a combatant whom attacks us or threatens to harm others.
    Neutral good, actually, unless you're a dark knight. Even then, you're still more neutral good than chaotic good, since you never take any initiative against the corruption in Ishgard or elsewhere.

    ... but that's arguing semantics. Either way, we can only fight and kill people who are disturbing the peace or are corrupt because that's what the kind of hero we are does. This isn't that kind of story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Doesn't mean the WoL doesn't enjoy revenge. One of the dialogue options after the Vault was something like "I'll tear out Zephirin's heart for what he did. A life for a life."
    Well, yes, but in the end even if we do have a selfish reason for fighting and killing the Archbishop and the Heavens' Ward, they have to be stopped for reasons beyond our personal grudge.
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Doesn't mean the WoL doesn't enjoy revenge. One of the dialogue options after the Vault was something like "I'll tear out Zephirin's heart for what he did. A life for a life."
    I wish we could have done that to that knight and I wish I could replay that scene so I can choose that answer again and again and again. .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I wish we could have done that to that knight and I wish I could replay that scene so I can choose that answer again and again and again. .....
    Ser Zephirin didn't really do anything to justify being tortured. He was protecting his people and his charge - and saw the Warrior of Light as a threat. Haurchefant chose to get in the way and yes, his death was unfortunate, but you don't see a massive change in a society like Ishgard without prominent individuals perishing.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I wish we could have done that to that knight and I wish I could replay that scene so I can choose that answer again and again and again. .....
    For what? Preventing the Archbishop's plans from being unravelled by his untimely death, even assuming that that was achieved, which was by no means a given? What would torturing him accomplish? Like Graeham said, he chose to throw himself in the face of danger. Zephirin did nothing deserving of torture. The Archbishop himself, like the Garleans, although misguided, wanted to put an end to powers that had long been terrorising Eorzea and which threatened its very existence.
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