Meracydia/Miqo'te/Azys La speculations (spoilers)

[Frederick22]

the miracle xD

On the last chapter aka WoD, we learn that there was a mazzive revolution responding beacuse of Xande's madness, in his desesperation he try to use that power to end the rebellion only to destroy everything and starting the 4th umbral calamity

[Arixtotle]

Read your own comments sir, first you said something that didnt make sense then you start saing something completly diferent

"In that glorious age, the Crystal Tower stood tall as the symbol of Allagan pride" YES A MONUMENT. My example was exacly the same, the only difference is that the arc of triounphe doesnt collect sun energy.

Here's the issue. You're saying it was BUILT as a monument while I'm saying it BECAME a monument. Again, like the Hoover dam not the Arc de Triomphe.

I also never said anything different. My argument on change is that it was not changed STRUCTURALLY. It's purpose was what changed. It went from a power plant to a research facility. This entire thing started with a discussion on the difference between the Allagan structures with you postulating that what we see in ST is from the end of the Third Astral Era since you believe it was updated when Xande was using it as a research facility. I disagree. I don't think he would have changed the structures that much. What we see in ST is decadence pure and simple. It was meant to be viewed by the public almost as if it was a museum or education center on the energy collection. That's why it looks different from other Allagan structures.

What we really should be discussing is if the Labyrinth of the Ancients existed before Xande's second reign. I can't see a maze containing lava as being very welcoming to visitors.

looks like i keep reading the cutcenes wrong lol. Im sorry and defenetly overlooked that part. So afterall the crytal towers purpose was to produce energy.
But while it did that, it was a symbol of prosperity, hence why it was open to public.

When Xande came back, he closed it. Turning into mostly only a power plant. They wanted more and more energy to feed the darkness, that when they destroyed pretty much the meracydians and caged bahamuth in dalamud, they tossed it in the skyes, producing more than before.

but as it was not enough, they overcharged ir somehow and created the blast, the earthquake of the 4th umbral era, where allagan empire literally sank into the ground at some points. Then amon decided to stop the towe from sinking doing that from before etc...

wich means CT wasn't built neither as a monument but yes as a power plant. and the change AFTER xande was only to produce MORE energy.

Thank you Arixtotle

The next part of the cut scene says this:

Wielding the power of darkness requires prodigious amounts of energy - energy that not even the Crystal Tower could produce. In order to augment the shortfall, Dalamud was created and launched into the heavens. On high it hung, gathering the sun's energy and channeling it to the tower below.
However, a miscalculation resulted in a surge of energy that escaped into the land. This triggered an earthquake of unprecedented violence - the calamity that ushered in the Fourth Umbral Era.
In the blinking of an eye, the mighty Allagan Empire was laid to waste.
Yet even as the Crystal Tower was sinking into the earth, the technologist Amon, now Emperor Xande's closest aide, invoked powerful magicks and halted the flow of time.
Every soul within the structure, the emperor included, was placed in a deep slumber. In that state they were to remain until the time was ripe to awaken.

Methinks the miscalculation was either due to the Ascians or deliberate sabotage by the Princess who was trying to end Xande.

And you're welcome.

I'll have to go through the other cut scenes eventually to find out more.

[Frederick22]

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Im done with you really, you cant see and accept your own mistakes. Ok think whatever you want, but the lore says something different and will never change to our side of the story. Live on denial.

Also if you guys did the 3rd chapter of the Crystal Tower's story we will discover the true origin of the calamity. There was a relovution that wanted to stop Xande's madness reing. Xande, desesperate, he tried to end the revolution using the power he had, but he provoded the ulbral calamity that ended the allan civilisation.

[Arixtotle]

Im done with you really, you cant see and accept your own mistakes. Ok think whatever you want, but the lore says something different and will never change to our side of the story. Live on denial.

Also if you guys did the 3rd chapter of the Crystal Tower's story we will discover the true origin of the calamity. There was a relovution that wanted to stop Xande's madness reing. Xande, desesperate, he tried to end the revolution using the power he had, but he provoded the ulbral calamity that ended the allan civilisation.

The issue is really that you don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. You're misinterpreting it.

And no, I just posted the lore. It does not say something different. CT was built as a power plant NOT a monument.

I really have to ask, is English your first language? You don't seem to be getting the intricacies of it that well. This isn't a jab or insult. I'm just getting really confused on why you are interpreting things the way you are when it clearly says something different.

Also, him accessing the power due to a rebellion doesn't negate anything else. He miscalculated how much power the tower could hold and called too much.

[-Krypyonite-]

So coming back to the topic, the ruins of Azys Lla actually seem to be allagan afterall? but if we assume that those structures are Allagan, that would also imply that qarn was also made by allagans

the architecture is the same, both praise Azeyma.

Could we take it as (if there is some proof of what era Qarn is originally from ) if we take qarn as somwehre 3rd astral era. wich by the end of it, Allagans left the theology and focused on technology, this ''disrespect'' for ruins would be a simbol of that, being qarn forgotten and other places lifted into the air.

OR the less likely hipothesis

The structures are from miqote's and their decendents, and qarn was made by them aswell, they could have been conquered by the Allagans at any time, or even pushed from meracydia to aldernard or even the other way around due to allagans

[Frederick22]

The issue is really that you don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. You're misinterpreting it.

And no, I just posted the lore. It does not say something different. CT was built as a power plant NOT a monument.

I really have to ask, is English your first language? You don't seem to be getting the intricacies of it that well. This isn't a jab or insult. I'm just getting really confused on why you are interpreting things the way you are when it clearly says something different.

Also, him accessing the power due to a rebellion doesn't negate anything else. He miscalculated how much power the tower could hold and called too much.

Was both a monument and a poweplant, thats what im tring to say sir.

So coming back to the topic, the ruins of Azys Lla actually seem to be allagan afterall? but if we assume that those structures are Allagan, that would also imply that qarn was also made by allagans

the architecture is the same, both praise Azeyma.

Could we take it as (if there is some proof of what era Qarn is originally from ) if we take qarn as somwehre 3rd astral era. wich by the end of it, Allagans left the theology and focused on technology, this ''disrespect'' for ruins would be a simbol of that, being qarn forgotten and other places lifted into the air.

OR the less likely hipothesis

The structures are from miqote's and their decendents, and qarn was made by them aswell, they could have been conquered by the Allagans at any time, or even pushed from meracydia to aldernard or even the other way around due to allagans

For the information we have now I have 2 theories. Or it was a proto allagan civilisation ( before the rise of the empire ) or it was a very deep ancient civilisation, during the 1st or 2nd astral era
I'm kind not agreed do miqotes due to the thing that Qarn is on Eorzea and not Meracydia, but if it was no by the miqotes( go back to my 2 theories ) why the statues have a tail?

[Fenral]

Methinks the miscalculation was either due to the Ascians or deliberate sabotage by the Princess who was trying to end Xande.

I mean, the entire thing emerged from the earth 5000 years later as a perfectly preserved calamity-in-a-bottle. There's only one group we can think of that plays that long a game, right?

/cue theme "The Twilight Zone"


But back on topic, the architecture in the Fractal Continuum is pretty close to the stuff in the Crystal Tower, perhaps owing to both of them serving as facilities for public use. The Continuum, though, I imagine as something closer to a museum on a military base, mainly meant for the families of the people working the main lab on the Flagship.

As for the temple, the smaller islands look like they were forcefully ripped out of the ground below, but was it an act of reverence, like preservation work done on an old cathedral in a modernized city, or desecration? It's understandable that the older architecture would not be as durable as the new stuff, especially without proper upkeep, so it's possible that it could have been a functional temple 5000 years ago.

[Frederick22]

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Yea can see a total degradation on those structures

[myahele]

Seeing that there's that giant "anchor" that seen as an instrument to may hold these island in place and is connected to the Flagship (like all similar anchors in azys lla) I am going to say that the "Cathedral" may have been a trophy to show off to Allagan Citizens

I have a feeling Tiamat was also a trophy to show off to the citizens as well. Capturing the brood-sister/ Consort of Bahamut/ Mother of Mercydian Dragons and summoner of Primal Bahamut is probably a big deal

[treuhavik]

As for the temple, the smaller islands look like they were forcefully ripped out of the ground below, but was it an act of reverence, like preservation work done on an old cathedral in a modernized city, or desecration?

I wouldn't think it was intentional either way. I mean, Azys Lla must've been raised into the sky during the late-middle 3rd AE. We're talking six or seven hundred years since the birth and expansion of their civilization, and probably at least five hundred years after the construction of Qarn, The Invisible City, Silent King, Allagan Sun Temple, etc. Now, we know they abandoned religion for scientific study - and I don't blame them, having actual gods on tap to fuel their research - but the simple fact that they made their own floating continent should scream "We really dgaf about our past. We're king shit now, it's full steam ahead."

So, my guess?

<BLAST OFF>

"Oops. Looks like we pulled up some of our old buildings."

"<shrug> Meh."