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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    Except that the energy the tower took in was used to resurrect Xande. CT was an energy converting facility far before Xande's second reign. Xande was not resurrected until the Allagan empire began to decline.

    It was made as a power plant but was used afterwards to show the might of Allagan technology. It's like the Hoover dam. The Hoover dam was built for a functional purpose but ended up also being a symbol of American work ethic and prosperity.
    Look the story again, The said expclitiy that Xande ( once he has resurrected ) he order to change CT into a facility to gran all the energy he could, using Dalamud as a satellite. Is on the crystal tower story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
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    (got the idea wrong, but its now fixed)

    Syrcus tower quest, cutcene 2 does specificly say that the CT was built as a power plant, but was seen as monument for the zenith of Allag prosperity

    , but when the downfall started, Amon resurected Xande, When xande was back he turned into darkness, but to seek such power was needed lots of Aether so he increased CT power plant into a solely Aetherical research facility

    - says Unei (not the exact words ) but she actually says it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Krypyonite- View Post
    Syrcus tower quest, cutcene 2 does specificly say that the CT was built as a pride monument, but when the downfall started, Amon resurected Xande, When xande was back he turned into darkness, but to seek such power was needed lots of Aether so he turned CT into a Aetherical research facility

    - says Unei (not the exact words ) but she actually says it.
    Then, I was right all along XD

    People should read more, stop skipping cutesenes and making wrong argumenents
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    Well your way to expose the arguments wasn't the most correct althou what you said was right. But if you want to be exact, it was not a monument for Xande memory either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Krypyonite- View Post
    Well your way to expose the arguments wasn't the most correct althou what you said was right. But if you want to be exact, it was not a monument for Xande memory either.
    What I tried to said it was built after Xande's death to as a pride monument, but wasnt its main purpose to that was a monument for Xande.
    But makes sense, since he was the first emperor, and he, I guess, he did lots of achivements that show the mighty of the allags.

    A good example is the Arc of Triounphe. Is a pride monument for France, and was built by order of Emperor Napoleon. But the purpose was not him, only to show the pride of France.
    Great monuments of a country are most of the time made after great and important figure of that country dieds.

    PD: I dont think my arguments are wrong exposed, you yourself agreed with me in couple things. What happens is that people are use to skip cutescenes to play the game faster withouth enjpying the history that it has, and when they are interested on entering to the lore and expose their opinions, they just end to say wrong comments. Event so there are people who said wrong comments but they cant simply accept that they said, could be wrong, keeping insting, istead of cheking into the cutescenes to see what they could missed.
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    Here is the relevant word for word language from the cut scenes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unei
    The Allagan Empire reached its zenith long before our kind came into being.
    In that glorious age, the Crystal Tower stood tall as the symbol of Allagan pride. Parents took their children there, that they might learn how the nigh limitless energy it produced brought prosperity to the whole empire.
    Quote Originally Posted by Doga
    That prosperity, however, bred decadence, and the empire began to show signs of stagnation. This decline was made all the more rapid for want of strong leadership.
    In a matter of generations, the Allagan civilization became a pale shadow of its former self. Its once gleaming cities fell into disrepair, and its frontier lands were given over to wilderness.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unei
    Lamenting the pitiful state of affairs, one technologist made it his mission to restore Allag to greatness.
    Amon was his name, and he believed that the ailing empire wanted for but a potent ruler. And none was more potent than its founding father, whom he sought to resurrect.
    Quote Originally Posted by G'raha Tia
    The founding father? You cannot mean Emperor Xande!?
    Quote Originally Posted by Unei
    None other. As part of his experiments, Amon created clones of the emperor's decedents. We are the products of that experiment – copies of Unei and Doga.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammbroes
    Historical texts mention the reigns of two Allagan emperors named Xande.
    It was commonly believed that the second was the namesake of the first. After all, such a custom is not uncommon among royalty and commoners alike. To think that the two were in fact one and the same.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unei
    Aye, Xande returned from the grave and assumed his throne once more. And true to Amon's prediction, the emperor restored his realm to the glory it once knew. Would that he could have been satisfied with that...
    Quote Originally Posted by Doga
    In his previous live, the emperor desired to bring the entire world under Allagan dominion - an ambition that ultimately went unfulfilled. Having been granted a second chance, he was determined to succeed.
    Realizing that he needed more power to wage his war of conquest, Xande turned his sights towards a forbidden source: darkness. In order to learn how to harness this power, he converted the Crystal Tower into a restricted research facility.
    I've bolded the most important parts.

    As shown in these quotes, while CT was a symbol of pride it was NOT built as a monument. It was built for the night limitless energy it produced. It BECAME a symbol of pride due to the prosperity it brought to the civilization. It is not like the Arc de Triomphe but like the Hoover Dam as I already said. It shows the pinnacle of their advancement. It was pride in their accomplishments not a monument to a person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    Except that the energy the tower took in was used to resurrect Xande. CT was an energy converting facility far before Xande's second reign. Xande was not resurrected until the Allagan empire began to decline.

    It was made as a power plant but was used afterwards to show the might of Allagan technology. It's like the Hoover dam. The Hoover dam was built for a functional purpose but ended up also being a symbol of American work ethic and prosperity.
    You yourself said that the tower was change before Xande's resurrection, do you understand the meaning of your own words?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    You yourself said that the tower was change before Xande's resurrection, do you understand the meaning of your own words?
    What? No I didn't. I said that CT was a source of energy for all of the Allagan empire. It was not a monument but a power plant. Amon used the power from it to resurrect Xande and it was changed when Xande was alive. I never said anything different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    What? No I didn't. I said that CT was a source of energy for all of the Allagan empire. It was not a monument but a power plant. Amon used the power from it to resurrect Xande and it was changed when Xande was alive. I never said anything different.
    Read your own comments sir, first you said something that didnt make sense then you start saing something completly diferent

    "In that glorious age, the Crystal Tower stood tall as the symbol of Allagan pride" YES A MONUMENT. My example was exacly the same, the only difference is that the arc of triounphe doesnt collect sun energy.
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    looks like i keep reading the cutcenes wrong lol. Im sorry and defenetly overlooked that part. So afterall the crytal towers purpose was to produce energy.
    But while it did that, it was a symbol of prosperity, hence why it was open to public.

    When Xande came back, he closed it. Turning into mostly only a power plant. They wanted more and more energy to feed the darkness, that when they destroyed pretty much the meracydians and caged bahamuth in dalamud, they tossed it in the skyes, producing more than before.

    but as it was not enough, they overcharged ir somehow and created the blast, the earthquake of the 4th umbral era, where allagan empire literally sank into the ground at some points. Then amon decided to stop the towe from sinking doing that from before etc...

    wich means CT wasn't built neither as a monument but yes as a power plant. and the change AFTER xande was only to produce MORE energy.

    Thank you Arixtotle
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