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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    Detract from the job.. lol.
    Fang & Claw's addition added something. Wheeling Thrust then nerfed it. That's detraction in every way except fluff complexity. In the broad view, a help perhaps, but the way they were implemented definitely makes the 58 ability a detraction. The verb is well deserved. It went from full reward with no risk, to the same reward with newly added risk. No other job nerfs their 54/56 additions in that manner. It's just weird. Adding a challenge is not the 'addition' most people expect from their new ability, especially when no new reward is attached.
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    Gridania
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Fang & Claw's addition added something. Wheeling Thrust then nerfed it. That's detraction in every way except fluff complexity. In the broad view, a help perhaps, but the way they were implemented definitely makes the 58 ability a detraction. The verb is well deserved. It went from full reward with no risk, to the same reward with newly added risk. No other job nerfs their 54/56 additions in that manner. It's just weird. Adding a challenge is not the 'addition' most people expect from their new ability, especially when no new reward is attached.
    What you have at 58 is an incomplete SET of BotD abilities, which in that case detracts the entire BotD experience, yet some people only want to nitpick at a piece of it.

    @ Fynlar

    It may be the "typical mentality", but that doesn't make it right. TheRe should always be some risk, even if that risk is only a part of a bigger whole.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 07-30-2015 at 03:50 PM.