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    "If used under Thundercloud proc, its total Potency is 710 Potency."

    Should be 780.

    Edit: It is in fact 710, carry on, carry on, nothing to see here ...
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 07-31-2015 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    "If used under Thundercloud proc, its total Potency is 710 Potency."

    Should be 780.
    I just did some testing, and TC is definitely 390 initial + 320 dot = 710 total. 15 minutes of hitting dummy with F3 and thunders.

    Highest non-crit F3 = 3269
    Highest non-crit TC = 2939

    432/390 = 1.108~
    3269/2939 = 1.112~

    E: It appears there is a bug with ACT and Thunder ticks. No matter what level of Thunder you use -- whether it's a TC proc or not -- ACT will only show and calculate damage for six ticks.
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    Last edited by Waliel; 07-30-2015 at 09:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    I just did some testing, and TC is definitely 390 initial + 320 dot = 710 total. 15 minutes of hitting dummy with F3 and thunders.

    Highest non-crit F3 = 3269
    Highest non-crit TC = 2939

    432/390 = 1.108~
    3269/2939 = 1.112~

    E: It appears there is a bug with ACT and Thunder ticks. No matter what level of Thunder you use -- whether it's a TC proc or not -- ACT will only show and calculate damage for six ticks.
    Can you help me interpret this information? Are you saying that ACT fails to properly account for T3 proc damage?

    Also, is it still the case that as long as T3 Proc is allowed to tick for 18 seconds, it's a DPS increase over Fire 4? That's the rule I've been using although I am still not super confident in the dps contribution of thunder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisetheglass1 View Post
    Also, is it still the case that as long as T3 Proc is allowed to tick for 18 seconds, it's a DPS increase over Fire 4? That's the rule I've been using although I am still not super confident in the dps contribution of thunder.
    Not really, even if you match F4's potency with a clip so short, you're just devaluing the previous Thunder usage anyway and it can be a DPS loss. Use it sometime after F1 in your rotation for a more certain DPS gain, and even better yet, if you can, save it until after B3.
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    If I get an early proc I check to see how badly my clipping is, then I use this rotation:

    Fire 3 > Fire 4 > Thundercloud > Fire 1 > Fire 4 > Fire 4 > Fire 4 > Blizzard 3

    Is that a good move? Also, is there a particular number at which clipping is a dos gain over Fire 4?
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