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  1. #71
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    LMAO, here's another positive we can add (not my video).

    This had me in tears, I was laughing so hard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H74...ature=youtu.be
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  2. #72
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SirShuffles;3196068[/quote
    It just turns out that I'm terrible at it, so I'll stick with SCH and hope my AST partners are better at the class than I was.
    I dont think its nearly as bad as is implied in the 15 other AST threads.
    Its just pretty hard to play right.
    At the risk of derailing the intended positive vibe of this thread, AST doesn't boast a terribly high skill floor and offers little bonus in exchange for reaching for the ceiling. Anyone who can play a level 50 WHM can perform the essential healing functions of AST at level 60, and the card system isn't complicated once you've memorized everything.

    AST just appears on paper as if it has much more complexity than it functionally does. There's no magic secret to playing AST that brings it up to the level that WHM and SCH are on. Hence all the positive constructive criticism
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  3. #73
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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I can understand that people will ignore the nuances of astrologian and just think that throwing out whatever card that you pull is simple enough trying to maximize your buffs with whom you are using it with is a mini game within the mini game of playing the astrologian which is where its complexity lies.
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  4. #74
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    Blair Waldorf
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I absolutely love Astrologian and I every time I see some negative thread is not about constructive criticism, but about people bitching and showing how they failed to understand the core concept behind the job. They say the cards are bad and then they give examples of how they're using it and they're simply wasting potential for all of their cards. They ask for buffs, but if you need 100 more HP to come out of a Benefic it means your tank will die anyway because you don't know how to heal. Sadly, SE can't buff player skill; but then again, that only mean the baddies are gonna drop the job and let the good Astrologians shine ;D
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  5. #75
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    I can understand that people will ignore the nuances of astrologian and just think that throwing out whatever card that you pull is simple enough trying to maximize your buffs with whom you are using it with is a mini game within the mini game of playing the astrologian which is where its complexity lies.
    What you describe is neither complex nor difficult. These "nuances" are a kind of pretentious, false difficulty that attempts to obfuscate how minimally impactful most card actions are in practice. One look at your party list and a little attention paid to how everyone appears to be doing gives you most of what you need to know.

    If you had full access to your cards, there would be room for more strategy and complexity, but with RNG governing your card selection, it's not rocket science to choose your best options.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 07-30-2015 at 08:02 AM.

  6. #76
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    I can understand that people will ignore the nuances of astrologian and just think that throwing out whatever card that you pull is simple enough trying to maximize your buffs with whom you are using it with is a mini game within the mini game of playing the astrologian which is where its complexity lies.
    You go away out of this thread before you turn it into a hellhole!
    edit: seems it's too late.
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  7. 07-30-2015 09:18 AM

  8. #77
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    Ariel_Valmont's Avatar
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    Bella Ciao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    At the risk of derailing the intended positive vibe of this thread
    Then don't post, there are plenty of other places to voice your opinions on this. This thread is not about that discussion. Please stay on topic.
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  9. #78
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    MidnightTundra's Avatar
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    Luciana Wolf
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Simple things like the running and sprinting animations for AST really make me love the class. The special effects are really well done and I feel like they really did a good job catching the theme of the job. All of the abilities and spells have a "spatial magic" type of feel to them.
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  10. #79
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    LMAO, here's another positive we can add (not my video).

    This had me in tears, I was laughing so hard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H74...ature=youtu.be
    Omg. That was awesome. I laughed so much too. This makes me wanna try it on PvP, looks like fun.

    And guys remember this is the POSITIVE astrologian thread, do not derail kthanks
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  11. #80
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel_Valmont View Post
    Then don't post, there are plenty of other places to voice your opinions on this. This thread is not about that discussion. Please stay on topic.
    I'm not going to refrain from commenting on gameplay when it's relevant to something a poster in this same thread brought up. Whether or not you find such discussion to be "on topic" in this thread isn't my concern.

    Now please lead by example and remain "on topic" if you are truly dedicated to safeguarding this thread as a place for 100% non-critical Astrologian discussion, as the surest way to take a thread completely off the rails is to start discussing derailments or attempting to moderate your fellow posters.
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