Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[Rover1983]

Hi guys, I don't play Black Mage but I was wondering how do you guys feel about A1 savage? I've cleared it, and our Black Mage switched over to Summoner due to the higher mobility, multi-dots, strain on the add mechanic, and (in his opinion) overall dps increase. I'm very curious what answer Black Mages have for the moving in this fight, and is there any videos of a POV Black Mage clearing? Thanks in advance!

I can't answer this question but I can add to it. In my FC, some people who played BLM have also switched to Summoner because of the new Enochian mechanic being a bitch in the raids and that summoners have it easier with mobility with their dmg. In fact, we even have people leveling alt Summoners because of it and I'm not making any shit up. That should tell you the state of the BLM in Alex. Funny thing is - I continued to level my BLM thinking it wouldn't be that bad but now I wish I leveled my Summoner up before my BLM, lol. Oh well.

[Maero]

The situation really is true. Myself i plan on sticking to blm but started levelling my smn past 50 to see for myself.
I really did get destroyed by a smn last week in Alex, but i think it was due to smn multi dotting.
Certain raids, dungeons, etc yes i have also heard it is so much easier as smn.

[drizzle234]

That should tell you the state of the BLM in Alex. Oh well.

BLMs with a BRD should top the charts in A1, without BRD is still a respectable dps choice. Like any raid it depends on composition.

A1 World First(sch POV but with blm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWlViWbK4GU
BLM POV 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzH-aGteKNM
BLM POV 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjCcaWxThpQ
BLM POV 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzH-aGteKNM

If you're looking to complain about BLM i suggest trying here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...in-in-the-neck

[OneWingedSora]

BLMs with a BRD should top the charts in A1, without BRD is still a respectable dps choice. Like any raid it depends on composition.

A1 World First(sch POV but with blm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWlViWbK4GU
BLM POV 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzH-aGteKNM
BLM POV 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjCcaWxThpQ
BLM POV 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzH-aGteKNM

If you're looking to complain about BLM i suggest trying here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...in-in-the-neck

Summoner will most definitely outdps BLM on A1S assuming similar skill level + same party composition.

Multi dotting for 70% of the fight and AOEing the adds makes this an easy win for Summoners.

So far the only close fight where both of them are equal/BLM slightly outdpsing SMN is A3S.

Hell, I know a godly Bard that can outdps BLM on this turn as well. He ended at 1050 in i184 with a ballad.

[Sleigh]

BLM needs special attention to consistently beat SMN in A1 IMO. Have SCH drag around his adds post-split for him, mainly, and possibly let BLM ignore the first set in favor of group AoE milking (an area where if not doing that, SMN can solo with minimal ST DPS loss). Otherwise I do believe BLM will lead to faster clear times, especially as we get more gear and the pre-split DPS ramps up in BLM's favor. Thundercloud is basically a whole multi-DoT system on the level of SMN multi-DoTing now, in and of itself.

A2 BLM can't touch SMN. That's a fact.

A3, we'll see who comes out at top. The first half's trouble areas, Hand of Pain and the tornado phase, BLM makes it far easier/simpler/can spend CDs more freely, though next week with weapons I think those trouble areas will be automatically easier and it will be easier to focus on which caster provides more DPS throughout the whole fight, which without multiple clears to see who wins it's just a guess at this point.

[OneWingedSora]

BLM needs special attention to consistently beat SMN in A1 IMO. Have SCH drag around his adds post-split for him, mainly, and possibly let BLM ignore the first set in favor of group AoE milking (an area where if not doing that, SMN can solo with minimal ST DPS loss). Otherwise I do believe BLM will lead to faster clear times, especially as we get more gear and the pre-split DPS ramps up in BLM's favor. Thundercloud is basically a whole multi-DoT system on the level of SMN multi-DoTing now, in and of itself.

TC is 780 potency, The three SMN dots are 890 . I wouldn't really say they are on the same level. Not to mention TC relying on RNG.

[Sleigh]

TC is 780 potency, The three SMN dots are 890 . I wouldn't really say they are on the same level. Not to mention TC relying on RNG.

The main thing about that is the SMN DoTs require 3 GCDs to apply, BLM merely one. The main point one could make against the point I just made is 3D's existence, but since it lines up with DWT and is used on a ST anyway I don't believe that. Don't get me wrong, SMN is a wrecking ball in A1, especially with some milk (which isn't even really milk so much as it is free, meaningful damage), but I gotta go with BLM on it if he gets taken care of. The sad thing is SMN has a way higher damage cap due to the milk possible so parses won't really be a good indicator of who does more IMO, as weird as that sounds.

[drizzle234]

Summoner will most definitely outdps BLM on A1S assuming similar skill level + same party composition.

Multi dotting for 70% of the fight and AOEing the adds makes this an easy win for Summoners.

So far the only close fight where both of them are equal/BLM slightly outdpsing SMN is A3S.

Missing the point. This thread is called "Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS". Not SMN vs BLM and not "I give up on BLM lets try SMN". Its a thread meant to optimize BLM using 3.05 skils,abilities,etc. Don't get me wrong I enjoy SMN but I main BLM and that is where my heart lies.

On a final note I can't comment on whether or not SMN is better for A1. Of course SMN is better for A2, this is a no-brainer. Both classes are relevant in savage, in fact my static is war,pld,sch,whm,mnk,brd, BLM,SMN and for A2 I go SMN. SMN and I fight for top spot in A1 XD

[Twilite]

Yea, we already know SMN is #1 mage DPS.

BLM is hard to put down.

[Aikaal]

I don't see any advantage between SMN and BLM in A1S. I did 1k DPS while failing a missile mechanic with Eos in my party.

A2S, SMN wins because their AoE is stupid.

The only thing we can say for sure for A3S is world first used a BLM and I can see why. Superior support with better nuke for the tornado add phase. That alone is a valid reason to pick BLM over SMN. Summoners may Tri-Disaster, Bane, Deathflare new adds. But this means the old adds are still running and if they reach the water, it's a wipe. BLM provide precise nuke which SMN fails to bring.

A3S is definitely harder to do as BLM than SMN but it's definitely more rewarding to have a BLM imho. I easily perform my 6 fire IV opener with the movement and mechanics and I'm doing 1k+ at 10mins+ mark.