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  1. #11
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    Core1019's Avatar
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    Violet Carmine
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    Lich
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    The reason you can do it unsynced is because there are people that want to experience the story and content of Coil, but never could before because they didn't have a static or progression FC. Or they weren't "serious gamers".
    That reason may hold up for normal coil (although I still think it should be done properly), but it has absolutely no bearing on savage, since normal mode exists.
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  2. #12
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Core1019 View Post
    That reason may hold up for normal coil (although I still think it should be done properly), but it has absolutely no bearing on savage, since normal mode exists.
    A better question is, why wouldn't unsync work on it? It's outdated content from ARR.
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  3. #13
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    Noah Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I'm still trying to grasp the point you're attempting to make. If you've completed it or even if you haven't, why would you care. It's not like completing this content gives any kind of competitive edge, is it simple elitism? Or do you have a valid concern.
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  4. #14
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    Claire Delune
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I agree with the OP, Savage Coil has no relation to the story and was a raid put in place for players to give them selves a really tough challenge, it doesn't gate out any other content and doesn't drop anything worth killing it for, the only reward is a title. People are saying it shouldn't matter who has the titles, but thats the common entitled attitude I've noticed is common on these forums. Teams worked really hard to get their clears, and clearing a turn at the time was seen as a big achievement, it shouldn't be given out to others so easily when it has no real effect on the games progression or story.

    Either way the mechanics will mess up players who are level 60, but I can see fights like T6 and 9 being trivial in an un-synced group.
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  5. #15
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    So long as going unsynced is an option and not a straight out nerf, who cares. If you want it synced, then run it synced.
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  6. #16
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    People care waaaaay too much for these things. It's outdated content and no one is gonna care when VII remake or the next FF MMO comes out.
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  7. #17
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABecides View Post
    You can still do it unsynced with 8 people and get the titles too.
    I already feeled like a cheater with ilvl 130 gear in Savage but lvl 60 is just ridiculous.
    Because old content is old?

    You're new to the genre aren't you?
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  8. #18
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    In specific cases of Savage Coil too much DPS will cause rotations to start over on a phase change at in-opportune times leading to certain death.
    The mechanically dense nature of the fights ensure that players cannot bully through them with numbers alone.
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  9. #19
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    Medique Mattasy
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    To revive a dead thread- As somebody who hasn't cleared savage coil, I agree with the op. There should be some things in a game that remain elite. Is that "elitist"? Of course it is. Is that a bad thing? No. It is fun to get things that are rare, and it is less fun when they become less rare.

    That people do things which I don't/can't do, makes the game world more interesting.

    Edit: At the same time, I can understand that older content can be more quickly ignored if it doesn't evolve. Asking players to forego all their new skills, and wipe a lot.. This is quite the deterrent and goes a long ways to making coil savage completely empty of players.
    Also, elite players have an added incentive to do the new elite thing vs "resting on laurels."

    If elite content had seasonal rewards, whatever they may be, for clearing pre-nerf, that'd be cool.
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    Last edited by finalmattasy; 02-24-2017 at 05:09 AM.

  10. #20
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The whole point of Savage ScoB was to bring challenge. And as many said, it doesn't give anything but titles because the story is in normal and the gear is the same as normal.

    So why would you kill the challenge for the sake of killing it? That's non-sense.
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