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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Monk Lv 80

    PLD dps needs to be buffed, current dps a joke

    ok so my pld ilevel 186 bairly does 815dps in sword oath on dummy 200 blade
    dark same ilevel like gear 180 wep 950+
    war same ilevel gear again with 180 wep 1050+

    So plds need to be fixed majorly because this is a bad joke and my rotations are optimized before any one says anything like git gud.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie-Amber; 07-29-2015 at 04:56 PM.

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    Busta Perizm
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    I wish they would just nerf tank dps into the ground completely. Im talking 200 dps tops. 80% dmg reduction in tank stances.
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    if they nerfed tanks we would all go premade using drg tanks
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    Zephiroth Jenova
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    the numbers r as good as they r.200 more dps is the attended DPS a Warrior should do because thats what he is and thats was yoshi p said stop flaming.if they would buff the PLD they have to do it with the WAR too.u will never dps the same as WAR as can do
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephiroth View Post
    the numbers r as good as they r.200 more dps is the attended DPS a Warrior should do because thats what he is and thats was yoshi p said stop flaming.if they would buff the PLD they have to do it with the WAR too.u will never dps the same as WAR as can do
    Please feel free to watch numbers roll by in the fly text in these two videos. Warriors do NOT need a dps buff...obviously
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUnLg_ZPmeI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjZqrUMZQlA

    Paladins on the other hand...yeah...could use it for sure.
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    umm no a dark or rather the superior version of pld does close to 150 dps more in tanking mode and has the same survivability.

    Warrior is made to fill the ot role of dark only atm due to pld is worthless to take due to lack of dps.
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    C'thuuko Tohka
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    umm no a dark or rather the superior version of pld does close to 150 dps more in tanking mode and has the same survivability.

    Warrior is made to fill the ot role of dark only atm due to pld is worthless to take due to lack of dps.
    You have zero idea what you're talking about. The mitigation a DRK brings is nothing compared to what a PLD can do unless there's a lot of magic damage, and specifically a magical tank buster. How many groups do you see taking a DRK into savage A2? Not many, because everything's physical in there, meaning DRK's mitigation in vastly inferior to PLD's. The way things are now is fine, with PLDs being brought when more physical mitigation is needed and DRKs when more magical mitigation or damage is needed.
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    Nymeria Faelivrin
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenlyArmed View Post
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    So because PLD can do better in one out of four endgame raid fights, they're the best? You're being silly, a majority of Alexander Savage effectively undermines Paladin's so-called "Perfect Mitigation" by virtue of the fact there is not one single physical damage tankbuster in the entire set of raids, this means that the only good thing your shield can do is block fluff autoattack damage, which further renders both bulwark and sheltron useless. So what does this leave PLD with? Rampart, a cooldown that DRK has a perfect equivalent of, Sentinel, which is good but comparable to Vengeance and is beaten for Savage tankbusters by Dark Mind + Shadowskin and Hallowed Ground, an actually fairly good cooldown with a 7 minute recast time. Hallowed Ground alone does not make PLD "the perfect defense tank" everyone claims it is, not in the current raid tier. What PLD was in the coils of Bahamut is not relevant to Alexander Savage.
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    Sairen Gazz
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    the way i see is this
    PLD = good for Physical type enemies
    War = good damage good defence but mostly to self sustain (my opinion is warrior is the middle ground)
    DRK = good for magic type enemies.

    any sort of correction would be nice to better my understanding
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    So you want a tank that has the highest defensive capability to have higher dps also?, Offtank or no that is the balance defense over offense.
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