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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    these parsers were done in all 3 classes dps stances and dark is the same defense as a pld in sword oath with all tanking cds.

    so a pld is trash compared to dark in end game raids. I did mention the dark also only had a il180 wep in original post right?
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    only solution buff plds dps or lower darks survivability.
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    Comfirmed you have no idea what you are on about, dark has same survivability as a pld yeah okay.
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    Julienne Fletcher
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    That's because PLD is a tank class. It's not a DPS class. Would I like more DPS for my PLD? Yes. Do I need more DPS for my PLD? Not if the other DPS are doing their jobs properly.
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    Nymeria Faelivrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julienne View Post
    That's because PLD is a tank class. It's not a DPS class. Would I like more DPS for my PLD? Yes. Do I need more DPS for my PLD? Not if the other DPS are doing their jobs properly.
    This line of argument always makes me wonder if the people saying these things have done any progression raiding while it is relevant. PLD is getting dropped from Savage groups due to poor DPS and the raid design nullifying PLDs primary defensive advantages. Endgame raiding is what the game is balanced around, and thus why people are worried about PLD's state right now.
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    PLD dps doesnt need to be raised. Its DEF needs to be raised and in so doing it will allow the healers to make up for the lack of dps. PLD should be the undisputed defender of the realm. Im more than happy to give up personal dps for better use of my shield!
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    Josh Ann
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    Dragoon Lv 53

    Who needs DPS.

    I think instead of fixing the DPS that they should do something more in lines of counter damage. Lets say the paladins shield shall absorb damage and gains a counter damage per damage absorbed. So if a paladins shield absorbs 1k damage from an attack it shall auto counter for 10% of damage absorbed. you can always call the trait reflect. Since it is one spell not put into the game. Give paladins the trait reflect which will reflect 10% of the damage absorbed by the shield block. This in turn should be a low level ability received at lets say level 30 and drop the Sword Oath and give the trait reflect which in turn will increase enmity as well. Lets face the fact Sword Oath is the real joke. This should balance out very well since you are not always going to block every attack. This will in turn cause the stat distribution for a pally to be in strength. With this the Paladin will be set apart from the other tanking classes.
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    end game alex savage where all raiders take only stuff that can dps umm yeah balance. no real static takes a pld due to lower dps.
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    That is the balance drks have higher dps and less survivabilty options or at least weaker options than a pld. If a pld had the same dps as a drk then a drk would never be taken.
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