Results 1 to 10 of 134

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Ayanno's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    146
    Character
    Ayanno Kannagi
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Yes, the kind of scaling you stated. I'm stating that we already have it.

    Smn also has titan-egi and sustain.
    Have you ever tried to keep titan-egi alive post 50 with Physick at it's current state? It's almost to the point where it's better to swftcast > titan > sprint the hell away. It'd be more useful than standing there doing nothing but sustain/physick on the pet in the hope that you some how keep it alive, so the monster doesn't eat your face.

    Here's a question: If manawall/ward gave a 60BLM the exact same HP-shield that it did at 50 ......would you be ok with that? BLM's ability, by your own words, scaled to match our increased HP levels. SMN's ability, which again is native to them, not cross classed, did not scale at all to accommodate for the more then doubled HP totals

    EDIT: The last line in your post wasn't there when I clicked reply, so doing so now. And....that's kind of the problem. It doesn't fill a role for SMN at 60, and the spell is native to them, not a cross class ability.
    (4)
    Last edited by Ayanno; 07-29-2015 at 02:08 AM.

  2. #2
    Player
    Malevicton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    969
    Character
    Zappa Dattic
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayanno View Post
    Have you ever tried to keep titan-egi alive post 50 with Physick at it's current state? It's almost to the point where it's better to swftcast > titan > sprint the hell away. It'd be more useful than standing there doing nothing but sustain/physick on the pet in the hope that you some how keep it alive, so the monster doesn't eat your face.

    Here's a question: If manawall/ward gave a 60BLM the exact same HP-shield that it did at 50 ......would you be ok with that? BLM's ability, by your own words, scaled to match our increased HP levels. SMN's ability, which again is native to them, not cross classed, did not scale at all to accommodate for the more then doubled HP totals
    Why are you healing titan with physick? Heal it with sustain, the way the game is designed (a way that scales with hp btw).

    As far as manawall/ward: the ability that was intended to fit that role scaled. People were comparing physick to second wind, which was an inherently flawed comparison because our equivalent is not physick, it's manawall/ward. Second wind scales (since it's based on attack power not mnd), manawall/ward scales; everything is balanced. If physick also scaled that would just be an extra move, completely unrelated to the others. It would give us an extra function and utility that the game was never balanced around. Your whole question is a loaded false equivalency.

    Physick was never designed, even at 50, to be useful in group content. Scaling it would not be balancing, it'd be a buff, and one that we don't need. We fulfill all of our intended roles. It was good for soloing at 50, but it's still good for soloing because we have enough cc to heal as long as we want.

    Edit @ your edit: it didnt fill a role for smn at 50 either. It's a native ability, but that's only because the class split at 30, not because smn was supposed to be using physick.
    (2)
    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  3. #3
    Player
    Yukiko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Limsa Nominsa
    Posts
    2,435
    Character
    Yukihko Kuroshima
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Try keeping titan-egi alive post 50 just with sustain... that alone tells me you either dont have or dont play SMN as main!
    (3)
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3