Did Yoshida went a bit too far by cloning WoW?

[Terribad]

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/06/05...-final-fantasy

According to this article. I don't know if it's true or not though. On the other hand WoW has 7 million and this supposedly has 4 million so I just assume its second most. Maybe SWOTR has more? I dunno. Most MMOs are free now with no sub model.

Might just be here say that everyone keeps repeating like its truth.

I've read that article before whoever wrote that seems to think "registered accounts" and "subscribers" are interchangeable when they aren't. When you click the "4 million paying subscribers" it takes you to the article about the registered accounts. I just think it's really strange that they've only released numbers once .*Shrugs* But thank you for posting the link for me.

As far as being the second most you're probably right since there really aren't many p2p mmos out right now.

[Immo187]

This has 500k subs, not 4million. With million they mean registered accounts...

[bettomendes]

LOL what...? These forums, omg...

[Akiza]

The reason why the WoW formula gets reused is because players won't support anything that doesn't follow the formual look at The Secret World they immersion and character progression and the game went buy to play since it failed to maintain subcribers. Develepors should look at Saint Row IV when it comes to character creation, character progression and variety of content. Next up should be Grand theft Auto and finally the Infamous series. Those games have a lot of variety content that is fun and entertaining and they do character progression and rpg better than mmorpgs. Those games have strongholds where players fight waves of enimeis to take over territory. Over the top skills and abilities as well as the ability to enhance existing abilities. Persistence skill upgrades which single player games do MMORPG better than MMORPGS. This game needs short quest that are fun like insurance fraud Final Fantasy style.

[jadan2000]

though i do like the game play much more in 2.0 then 1.0.. the UI could use some originality love! On my PC the game looks way better then the pics you have up though. it in no way looks close to WOW

[Kaedan]

This has 500k subs, not 4million. With million they mean registered accounts...

I'd like to see where you're getting that supposed 500k from.

[Velhart]

Strange, I never seen someone post a topic about wanting 1.xx/FFXI back into FFXIV before. Not like this has not been constantly discussed since the concept of FFXIV:ARR.

[IzzyData]

The original version didn't have UI elements? I suppose that is pretty unique. Risky move though.

[Felis]

The original version didn't have UI elements? I suppose that is pretty unique. Risky move though.

In 1.x you couldn't take a screenshout without turning off the UI. Also something that was unique ^^

Here a picture with turned on UI

[KisaiTenshi]

This game needs short quest that are fun like insurance fraud Final Fantasy style.

I'd so LOVE a version of that. That is absolutely the most fun thing to do in Saints Row. Given how frustratingly silly the beast quests can be, it seems like this would be something the Goblins would do, if not the Moogles.

Of things that are in other games that I think could be added in-context. I'm not sure where Mabinogi ripped the commerce/trading system off from (probably Silkroad) but Archeage's version was far more fun once you combined it with mounts. A "DoL/DoH" type of FATE/Duty where half the party members are to protect the Airship/Chocobo-wagon and the other half have to "repair" it would be a lot of fun. I'd like to see an actual Duty or FATE that made use of the crafters/gatherers.

I'd like to see where you're getting that supposed 500k from.

The articles pull the numbers from SE and Blizzard's public quarterly filings. They are required to put how much revenue, not necessarily how many active subscribers, since it's an arbitrary number once you consider free trials. You can do a little bit of math to figure out how many subscribers there are by counting the revenue and dividing by the subscriber fee.