This new loot ststem for Ales is beyond pathetic.

[Grotesque]

Then go 8 times still better than 100 like OP claims to have done. Maybe 2 hours for 8 runs or less if the party is very good.

Excluding the runs with head/head, head/crank, crank/crank But yeah, I just wanted to point out the difference between "everybody get token" and "run 4 times". Normally you're done in about 10 to 12 runs if everybody wants only one specific token, which makes it about 2 hours with one run being 10 minutes

[MXMoondoggie]

Oh it's another one of these "I can't get all the loot I want on day one so I'm unhappy" threads. No matter what loot system they have some people will be unlucky on drops and whine about it. To me that's half the fun just working hard for a drop and finally getting it. Though I wish they just had loot drops instead of dropping tokens for loot they aren't as exciting.

[Windklinge]

just wait till you see RNG return with savage mode then youll be HAPPY that normal mode works this way atleast.... i bet it will work like this :

upgraded gordian gears will drop. randomly. fine once per week for the same player.

a upgrade token will be given to all members per week once. these can probaly be used to upgrade the normal mode armor to the savage version but youll need more than 1 for some pieces like chest.

we know normal mode has no weapon. so what happens with weapons you my ask yourself? RIGHT GUYS. RNG IS BACK on weekly locked raid weapons which are the worst now since 3 new jobs youll basicly never get your weapon until next alex raid cluster comes XD please look forward to it !

the above wouldnt suprise me ONE BIT considering how much they love RNG and how silent they have been about savage loot system (no details on how tokens will work yet excet that everyone gets one)

[Nanga]

Killed T3 100 times.

Okay.

[morerancor]

I'm not sure how anyone can really defend this new system. Sure it works great if your in a static but it's duty finder content. The loot system should of stayed the same as the old one, now everyone's rolling on the same stuff all the time or not running at all.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

because of rng I now roll need on everything.... aslong as its for gear I need such as drg and pld gears... wanted drg gear first but rng is stupid...

[Blessedbythesun]

Join a PF farm group or go in with friends, fc, and/or ls member if you are using DF to help lower the amount of people lotting for the same item. I don't understand why people are afraid of asking others to help, especially from their FC and LSs.

I have usually gotten my drops in under 6 with no issues then again, since the last update, I have had no interest in doing normal Alexander.

[Guevara]

I think I'm gonna start PF locking drops this week, with 2 runs guaranteed.

I think that can work as well. Just wait a little longer for party to fill up.

[Ferth]

The problem with the Alexander loot system is they didn't change it to fit the new system they just shoe horned it in with no thought to how it should work.

Some simple changes that would make the token system far less annoying:

Every turn drops all it's available loot every completion. There is no reason we should be collecting multiple parts, hoping rng doesn't suck and then hoping we actually win the lot against everyone else there.

Or

Rather than having different tokens for every slot it should be one token for everything. Turn one in and you get belt/accessories. Two and you get gloves, boots or hats, four and you get pants or a body piece.

Or

Only one token is required for a specific piece. Put accessory drops in every turn and make body and pants more rare.

[Dererk]

Didn't they say they'd be outing more loot in on clears? Was suprized they didn't put this in during savage update.