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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    I *really* am not liking how WM works with cast times vs recast times.

    The cast times are too short to feel comfortable with the longer GCD in this game.

    Its incredibly frustrating and feels weird. Reminds me of WoW when I'm playing a haste stacked Rsham in ICC during bloodlust(oh god that sucked) when the tank's getting wrecked. Cast times shorter than global, and it just feels.. bad. At least there haste reduced your global as well... Bleh.

    Is there any way to turn off the error sounds? Without turning off all the rest.. because if I turn off system sounds(which also controls UI sounds.. I don't want to hear the clicks when I mouse over abilities or finish casts guys) I can't hear DF queue while tabbed out.. but if I leave it on I get to hear that lovely error sound when spamming abilities.. "can't cast that yet" grr..

    /rant off



    I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually and thanks for the clarification on Barrage. They really could have worded it better. "Your next weaponskill hits 2(3) times but cannot crit" or something.

    it's 2 before the trait, 3 after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I *really* am not liking how WM works with cast times vs recast times.

    The cast times are too short to feel comfortable with the longer GCD in this game.

    Its incredibly frustrating and feels weird. Reminds me of WoW when I'm playing a haste stacked Rsham in ICC during bloodlust(oh god that sucked) when the tank's getting wrecked. Cast times shorter than global, and it just feels.. bad. At least there haste reduced your global as well... Bleh.

    Is there any way to turn off the error sounds? Without turning off all the rest.. because if I turn off system sounds(which also controls UI sounds.. I don't want to hear the clicks when I mouse over abilities or finish casts guys) I can't hear DF queue while tabbed out.. but if I leave it on I get to hear that lovely error sound when spamming abilities.. "can't cast that yet" grr..

    /rant off



    I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually and thanks for the clarification on Barrage. They really could have worded it better. "Your next weaponskill hits 2(3) times but cannot crit" or something.

    it's 2 before the trait, 3 after.
    actually the weapon skill part is only active in WM cause on my archer (not bard yet) it still makes it work on auto attack... so no its only 3 times cause if you have WM then you have the trait... and no you don't want it on all the time (looking at bards in PvP that cant even do anything while in WM...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    snipe
    Join the club. I have yet to meet a veteran bard who likes WM. Majority of people don't like WM, we just are forced to live with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval View Post
    Join the club. I have yet to meet a veteran bard who likes WM. Majority of people don't like WM, we just are forced to live with it.
    Actually a lot of bards like the playstyle. I certainly miss weaving 2 ogcds, but otherwise it's a refreshing change that adds further challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Actually a lot of bards like the playstyle. I certainly miss weaving 2 ogcds, but otherwise it's a refreshing change that adds further challenge.
    Calling BS on that one. I'm not lying when I say all of my bard friends hate WM. Judging between them all being savage raiders and the hate on the forum, it's definately a small minority that do actually like WM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval View Post
    Calling BS on that one. I'm not lying when I say all of my bard friends hate WM. Judging between them all being savage raiders and the hate on the forum, it's definately a small minority that do actually like WM.
    Quite the small sample size. Let's do this same thing from my point of view. All of my bard friends enjoy the changes. Judging between them all being savage raiders it's definitely a small vocal minority that keep whining on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval View Post
    Join the club. I have yet to meet a veteran bard who likes WM. Majority of people don't like WM, we just are forced to live with it.
    You and your "friends" are definitely the minority when it comes to how end game bards feel about wm. All 3 of the bards i know that have cleared at least a1 savage love the changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunye View Post
    You and your "friends" are definitely the minority when it comes to how end game bards feel about wm. All 3 of the bards i know that have cleared at least a1 savage love the changes
    And as we all know, there are only 5 bards in the entire game, so you knowing 3 bards who like the changes is clearly more decisive evidence than the number of people he knows.

    Except not.

    Now here's a thought, for people who claim they like the changes or that other people like the changes: What do they actually like? Would they be mad if the cast times were removed but everything else, i.e. damage boost and skill functions, stayed the same? If yes, why would you roll a Bard to begin with if you prefer casting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunye View Post
    You and your "friends" are definitely the minority when it comes to how end game bards feel about wm. All 3 of the bards i know that have cleared at least a1 savage love the changes
    His friends is the minority, as opposed to your 3 friends being a large significant sample size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aezelas View Post
    His friends is the minority, as opposed to your 3 friends being a large significant sample size?
    It's all good, these are the forums. Opinions are a dime a dozen. Personally I'm just laughing at people who say a majority do like WM. No, people tolerate it. But those that like it are few and far between. Maybe a poll should be done. I'd be happy to be proven wrong. I'm not that stubborn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    Completely, utterly, unequivocally wrong. I'm a veteran bard and I love it. L2P.
    Lol. If your going to lie at least look at your own join date.
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    Last edited by Medieval; 07-29-2015 at 02:11 AM.

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