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    AST isn't terrible though.

    Also everyone does know Astro has a perma potency buff in the form of Noc stance ? 5% is nothing to scoff at.

    I prefer Noc over Regen stance because there are tons of fights where I need to heal big and that 5% is very helpful.

    Also Ewer is a god send now and was an indirect buff to Noc as light speed was. ( why you would use light speed in regen stance Idk I never bothered with it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    ( why you would use light speed in regen stance Idk I never bothered with it)
    You would use it for the same reasons in both stances, really. You don't typically want to spam Aspected Helios, as you don't want to overwrite the regen effects in Diurnal and you don't want to overwrite the shields on your party in Nocturnal. You want to use Benefic/Helios when Lightspeed is up, so whether you have regens or shields is irrelevant to its use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    AST isn't terrible though.

    Also everyone does know Astro has a perma potency buff in the form of Noc stance ? 5% is nothing to scoff at.

    I prefer Noc over Regen stance because there are tons of fights where I need to heal big and that 5% is very helpful.

    Also Ewer is a god send now and was an indirect buff to Noc as light speed was. ( why you would use light speed in regen stance Idk I never bothered with it)
    Ewer is also a card that gives you the chance to groupwide buff everyone. Basically if you're low on mana and without LA, you're forcefully using a card for your mana and sacrificing supporting your party. it's great we can use spear and ewer that way, I just don't agree with it at all.

    Of course they aren't terrible, no one is saying they are. However, being able to do content isn't a justification for, say, their cards and support not being where it should be.

    Also, why is our healing potency lower? We don't have the CDs/utility/cross class other healers do, which is made up for by cards. So, why do we lack the same potency as the other two healers? We already sacrifice what makes us similar to them, like our crits not giving a crit shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    AST isn't terrible though.

    Also everyone does know Astro has a perma potency buff in the form of Noc stance ? 5% is nothing to scoff at.

    I prefer Noc over Regen stance because there are tons of fights where I need to heal big and that 5% is very helpful.
    - AST is not terrible, but it is disadvantaged.

    - I do scoff at Noct's 5% potency buff because it doesn't come close to making up the gap in efficiency between the two Sects. AST spells are strong enough with or without the tiny 5% buff; the problem is in the lack of potent healing CDs for those short spurts when you need dramatically increased healing, which applies to both Sects. At least with Diurnal the baseline maintenance healing is much less MP-intensive, the regens free up more GCDs and MP for the caster, and somewhat better synergy with CU (lol...but still) and CO is enjoyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    AST isn't terrible though.

    Also everyone does know Astro has a perma potency buff in the form of Noc stance ? 5% is nothing to scoff at.

    I prefer Noc over Regen stance because there are tons of fights where I need to heal big and that 5% is very helpful.

    Also Ewer is a god send now and was an indirect buff to Noc as light speed was. ( why you would use light speed in regen stance Idk I never bothered with it)
    Honestly this statement says why Noct is bad. You're not using for the benefits it gives to Aspected heals and abilities but purely for the 5% healing buff. Also the fact that we hold Spear and Ewer for ourselves shows we have short coming in the mana department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Honestly this statement says why Noct is bad. You're not using for the benefits it gives to Aspected heals and abilities but purely for the 5% healing buff. Also the fact that we hold Spear and Ewer for ourselves shows we have short coming in the mana department.
    Exactly what i was discussing with a friend about our mana issue. We "seems" ok now but we have to keep Ewer for us and even use celestial opposition for personal gain.

    Thats a huge concern i have with AST mana issue, i'm supposed to buff mainly others, not myself, just to cover my own weaknesses.
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