Could the beast tribes all have been artificially created? [3.0 Spoilers]

[Belhi]

Im pretty sure in the CT it said that the invasion of Meracydia was ordered by Xande after his resurrection. Xande had dreamed of a world under Allag rule but had died before seeing it through. After being brought back he took up that goal again, hence ordering the invasion of Meracydia. Xande was the first and last emperor of the Allag. The Allag weren't an empire before then.

I seriously doubt the Allag had anything to do with the Third Umbral Calamity.

[Frederick22]

Im pretty sure in the CT it said that the invasion of Meracydia was ordered by Xande after his resurrection. Xande had dreamed of a world under Allag rule but had died before seeing it through. After being brought back he took up that goal again, hence ordering the invasion of Meracydia. Xande was the first and last emperor of the Allag. The Allag weren't an empire before then.

I seriously doubt the Allag had anything to do with the Third Umbral Calamity.

I think you misunderstood your own interpretation. Xande was the first and the last, but that doesnt mean he was the ONLY emperor that ever ruled. There were tons of emperors between Xande's rules. All of them were Xande's decendants.

So yes The allag empire was always an empire, started and ended as en empire lol

[Cilia]

To get back to the original question...

Maybe. So far, we have practically definitive proof the Ixal are genetically-degraded Iksalion, but nothing on the other beast tribes. As a scientific pursuit, we cannot assume all beast tribes are genetically modified / degraded versions of Allagan specimens until we have proof.

[Frederick22]

To get back to the original question...

Maybe. So far, we have practically definitive proof the Ixal are genetically-degraded Iksalion, but nothing on the other beast tribes. As a scientific pursuit, we cannot assume all beast tribes are genetically modified / degraded versions of Allagan specimens until we have proof.

But dont start saing that moogles were an allag creation xD
Thats dumb hahahaha

[PArcher]

But dont start saing that moogles were an allag creation xD
Thats dumb hahahaha

If that's true, and they were a later creation, its no wonder they're gone now...

[Belhi]

I think you misunderstood your own interpretation. Xande was the first and the last, but that doesnt mean he was the ONLY emperor that ever ruled. There were tons of emperors between Xande's rules. All of them were Xande's decendants.

So yes The allag empire was always an empire, started and ended as en empire lol

No, what I'm saying is that I'm pretty sure it says in the CT story that it was Xande who ordered the invasion of Meracydia after he had been returned to life as he wished to finish the goal he had never achieved in his first life: conquest of the world. I'll have a look through the cutscenes again when the servers come back up.

Do we actually have any evidence that points to Bahamut being involved in the Third Calamity?

[Frederick22]

After being brought back he took up that goal again, hence ordering the invasion of Meracydia. Xande was the first and last emperor of the Allag. The Allag weren't an empire before then.

Like I said no, Xande prorbaly conquered regions, during his first reing, but not all their wisherwere fullfiled. After him there were sure tons of emperors.
That doesnt mean that Meracydia was invaded by the allags during Xande's second reing, also most possible is that given he used voidsent powers, maybe that way + adavced allaga tech, he probably had a much longer life spen than before, defitly much more than normal standars. Im not say he was not during the invasion to merarcydia, i dont doubt that, but you also said that the allag empire didnt become an empire until Xande's second reing, and is on that were you are wrong

And yes Bahamut didnt involved the Thirn Calamity, and wasnt even a calamity of fire
Since the end of umbral and astral eras are dictated by men and not by worldwide events, Its much obious and that this point that the end of 3rd umbral was and the start of the astral meaned the birth of the allagan empire

[Dererk]

I'm actually surprised that SE didn't do anything for the gigas in this expansion its said in a few fates that they come from the alabathian spine.

Maybe they will be involved in future patches.

[treuhavik]

And yes Bahamut didnt involved the Thirn Calamity, and wasnt even a calamity of fire
Since the end of umbral and astral eras are dictated by men and not by worldwide events, Its much obious and that this point that the end of 3rd umbral was and the start of the astral meaned the birth of the allagan empire

The first Umbral Era was one of wind, the next lightning, the third fire, the fourth earth, the fifth ice, and the sixth water. That's how it works. That's how the elemental wheel spins.

Whether or not the 3rd Umbral Era: the Calamity of Fire; was caused by Bahamut is debatable, but given the timing of Bahamut's capture by Allag, it's the most plausible scenario at this time.

[Fenral]

I'm actually surprised that SE didn't do anything for the gigas in this expansion its said in a few fates that they come from the alabathian spine.

Maybe they will be involved in future patches.

They also worship the Crystal Tower, and prior to 2.1 that was about all we knew about the thing. And yet, despite the appearance of multiple giants in the raids themselves, for all the "answers" we uncovered while 'venturing into it, the only question that was never touched upon was the only question we had beforehand.

Maybe they have something big planned to tie everything together, or maybe when Yoshida says he'd never borrow elements from other games without fully taking ownership of them as a part of Eorzea, he means "except for CT, but that was a one time deal."