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  1. #1
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    So? the op called me a troll yet she was asking for eye candy outfits?
    Well, I didn't call you a troll, but I thought your post did miss the point a bit. It sounded like you thought asking for sexy eye-candy outfits was a distinct issue from asking for equality in our choice of outfits. They're one and the same, since that's the area where that equality is currently lacking. SE should be offering just as much choice (including as much fan-service) to both genders.

    I, for one, do like sexy male outfits, but the part that bothers me is the fact that being a woman playing a male character gives me fewer such options than I'd have if I were a man playing a female character. I'd likely be satisfied with what we have if it were the same as what other players were given, but being given less than other players get feels like I'm being given a second-rate version of the game.

    It's particularly frustrating since it's such a departure from their initial stance. SE and the FF franchise are generally pretty good at gender equality. And this game started off no different, with males and females both getting a wide range from skimpy outfits to fully clothed conservative outfits to full armour. But now, as more stuff gets added through various patches, they're departing from that pattern, and instead repeatedly adding fan service eye candy outfits to just one gender and not the other.
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    C'alih Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    It sounded like you thought asking for sexy eye-candy outfits was a distinct issue from asking for equality in our choice of outfits. They're one and the same, since that's the area where that equality is currently lacking. SE should be offering just as much choice (including as much fan-service) to both genders.
    Agreed. Currently it's "cool outfit = unisex. delicate and/or sexy outfit = female only", and while i'd satisfied if they added an equal amount of 'male only' outfits to the female ones, I also know that there will be protests from players of female characters going, "I want to wear that too D: It's not fair!", or one of the designers/developers will go, "Oh, but this would look cute on girls, why can't we make it unisex?"

    And if they were to decide to make all outfits (apart from those that HAVE male/female equivalents, such as yukatas and swimsuits and ff13 gear), while initially there might be some protests along the lines of, "Wait, you're letting guys wear this?" I think that it would die down a lot quicker. (Hopefully once those people realized the world didn't end just because men got to dress up in pretty/sexy clothes as well.)

    Sure, just like with the whole jumping issue, there might be a surge at first with people dressing up purely for the shock value even though they wouldn't normally pick that kind of outfit, but just like how no one really cares anymore if people can jump continuously instead of just once every fifteen minutes, I think people would calm down quickly enough with the "cross-dressing horror", and go back to mixing and matching from different sets to get the kind of look they want (instead of the one with the most shock value).




    Also... BUMP! :p
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    Samcaesar's Avatar
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    Sylvia Valadis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
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    See, I'm just really afraid of going into a whole "Guys get cool/relaxed clothing. Girls get sexy/cute clothing." deal, which is why I'm incredibly wary of supporting male locked gear as opposed to making it all unisex.. Plus I'm also a little afraid the addition of "male-specific gear" will mean stuff like the Thanvarian, spring dress, et cetera.. sets being kept locked (As they're now "equally unfair" ), which kinda sucks, Nozomi really looks wonderful in the Thanvarian set and I'd be heartbroken if that's never a thing. It just doesn't really fix a lot of issues regarding the subject. So... Praying for the day all outfits are unisex here ;_;

    Also yha bumping is important.
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