Naoki Yoshida recent interview

[Delily]

Imagine this:
If you started a "new" game, and were just "dropped" into the world. All the Players and NPC's have the same color names so you can't tell them apart. There's no global chat, only /say and link-shell. The entire game requires you to have an 8-player party for all content. To dynamically create an 8-person party all you do is flip a switch and the 7 closest people/npc not in a party with a "auto-join" switch on will join and the content will commence. Your only ability to tell if a player is a computer controlled or not is by asking questions about the world outside the game. eg "How old are you? Where do you live?"

It is a great over-simplification, but this is part of the entire "dating game" genre, where you try to "win over" certain npc's by either being nice, or helping them, and in turn they will willingly help you. In this theoretical game, autonomous computer controlled characters keep schedules like real people, and are actually in demand. Most content could be cleared with an all NPC party, though coordination would be made easier with real people. There are entire games out there already that are basically "dating RPG"'s which western'ers tend to think are a joke. The entire point of that aspect is you don't get to be a jerk to -everyone- , you can completely ignore every npc character and play only with other real people that you met outside the game and likely get through the content much faster.

Think through the implications of this applied to an MMO. If the NPCs keep a schedule, how would you prevent lockout? Meaning, how would you ensure that if a person (with limited time) wants to clear content, how would you ensure there's always at least 7 NPCs around that can help him? Also, how much time would a person need to spend managing relationships with NPCs. Dating sims work well in a single player setting, I've yet to see one scale out to multiplayer.

I'm not trying to shoot down the idea, more just interested in seeing some of the downsides to it.

[KisaiTenshi]

Think through the implications of this applied to an MMO. If the NPCs keep a schedule, how would you prevent lockout? Meaning, how would you ensure that if a person (with limited time) wants to clear content, how would you ensure there's always at least 7 NPCs around that can help him? Also, how much time would a person need to spend managing relationships with NPCs. Dating sims work well in a single player setting, I've yet to see one scale out to multiplayer.

I'm not trying to shoot down the idea, more just interested in seeing some of the downsides to it.

I mean they keep a schedule. Like the game has a day and night cycle right? So you will always have NPC's attending their shops (your regular shops) during the day, and sleeping at night, and shops that are only open during the night (eg blackmarkets) and are attended by more "dark" NPC's. Should you choose to embark on a quest that requires 7 players, whoever is available (depending on content,) player or NPC will join the party. If the NPC's die during the quest they are subject to the same rules players are. So if you kick them from the party while they are knocked out, they will revive back in town and "remember you for that" and the next time you look for a party, that NPC will not join you again until you make it up to them. Or you could just go about an never try to fix it, there are plenty of other players and NPC's.

If there is an especially good NPC (let's say for the sake of argument, you wanted to take the "King" out on an adventure) they will likely not join players that aren't popular with NPC's. But should you get the King in your party, the King will want the quest to succeed at all costs, so they may "rent" you all the gear you need for the quest for free as long as you're on that quest. Shopkeep NPC's may do the same. Adventurer NPC's can only rent gear they own. Smithy-type NPC's may craft or repair gear just go out on such quests. And so forth.

As for downsides...

Most NPC's will likely not join you on quests that are anti-alignment. You need to seek players/NPC's of the same quest alignment. If you're in "Herotown" and you want to start the quest "Who wants to be A Villainare?" , chances are nobody will join your party until you wander outside Herotown, or find the shady backalley at night. So most of the time un-aligned quests will find party members in the immediate vicinity that will be willing to do that quest. NPC's shopkeepers are always interested in joining because they can get "Free loot", and taking a shopkeeper NPC with you will make that shopkeeper NPC unavailable to the rest of the world until they are dismissed from the party or the quest ends. Most NPC's will keep their own narrative, and failing certain quests will make them unwilling to join players again if that quest is not yet completed.

Some NPC's will have "blank" slate narratives to begin with, and will join anyones party, but they are basically "NPC-casual" and can only learn how to fight other monsters by copying what players do. Where as specific NPC types (Eg Deity, Celebrity, Shopkeeps, Light Adventurer, Dark Adventurer) will have a certain style and alignment in order for them to join, and some are better than others for certain quests. Celebrity NPC's would include socialites and royalty, and you'd need to be "on their list" just to speak to them. They might be awful combat partners, but they have high charisma, so it may be possible to solve a quest peacefully that would otherwise require bloodshed. A Deity NPC (think more along the lines of the primals in FFXIV) would require sacrifices of time or inventory to their shrine or temple, so they would be very-powerful but also very expensive in game resources to summon.

Like just to touch back on the "dating game" concepts. In a MMORPG context, the only game that did this was Mabinogi, but every time your character was "reborn" the NPC's all forget, so there wasn't really much point to it. There were certain quests and gear available if you made the NPC's like you enough, but none of them joined you in any quest.

The idea here isn't to have 3-4 NPC's that follow you around like a lost puppy the minute you login, but rather the NPC's will keep a popularity table, and should you be on their list when you open a party, they will join you automatically if you don't invite them first. If a quest requires 3 healers, then only NPC's that have a healer AI would join.

If shopkeepers are absent due to being out on a quest, or sleeping, other shopkeepers will take their place if their shop is regularly busy.

As I said, it would require a great deal of foresight to plan a smarter NPC-Player interaction system, and it requires the world actually functioning like a world with needs, not just having NPC's that give out their one quest while being part of the map.

[justinjarjar]

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It's cute and you might find some of these ideas added, but at that point why don't I just go outside and interact with people? And AI is just not there yet, but I could see some ideas being worth while to pursue. In the end all I want a game not a replacement for life.