Could the beast tribes all have been artificially created? [3.0 Spoilers]

[CGMidlander]

Well, I remember ages ago several of us here (including you Moose as I recall) had a theory that the gigas at least were the result of Allagan genetic engineering and were created as a source of slave labour... given what we now though that theory is given increasing weight. After all, they even made cloning of the spoken possible (*cough* Unei and Doga *cough cough*) so this idea of the beastmen being the result of bizzare Allagan experiments just rings true.

Alas, that then blows holes in my own old theory that the 'early tribes' who were the original settlers of Eorzea back in the very First Astral Era after the Age of the Gods ended were not the spoken races at all but were actually the beastmen....

The Allagans probably created Lalafells too.

Unlike anything else on Eorzea, compound #123 is thought to be another of the Allagan Empire's failed chimeric creations. The creature seems to be harmless enough, feeding only on the tiny water lice which inhabit Azys Lla's aetherochemical pools. Its outer hide, however, has given many a naturalist pause as it bears a texture almost identical to that of a Lalafell's skin.

http://en.ff14angler.com/fish/388

If you look at the lore behind a lot of the fish in Azys Lla, they're primordial versions of current species. Maybe 123 is a proto-lala?

[trigun43207]

You wrote it awhile ago. But it was about personalize final fantasy 14 figures using 3d printing. I thought that it was a cool idea.

[Escha]

I want my lamia beast tribe and daily quests with lamia pretties

[Belhi]

It could be that Ixali legends are kind of a mix of different myths. The Moogle of Moghome's legend of Moogle Mog said that there was once one large land in the sky but fire raining from the sky shattered it into many countless pieces. Perhaps the 'green fields' the Ixali speak of could come from memories of their home before the experimentation. In essence they got their stories mixed up. Or perhaps they existed on the sky islands for a time before something drove them to the ground.

On that, does anyone have any guesses on what disaster the Moogle legend speaks of? Calamity of Fire? Pissed of Nidhogg's brood on a rampage?

[Frederick22]

It could be that Ixali legends are kind of a mix of different myths. The Moogle of Moghome's legend of Moogle Mog said that there was once one large land in the sky but fire raining from the sky shattered it into many countless pieces. Perhaps the 'green fields' the Ixali speak of could come from memories of their home before the experimentation. In essence they got their stories mixed up. Or perhaps they existed on the sky islands for a time before something drove them to the ground.

On that, does anyone have any guesses on what disaster the Moogle legend speaks of? Calamity of Fire? Pissed of Nidhogg's brood on a rampage?

The moogles refere to the calamity of fire.

[treuhavik]

On that, does anyone have any guesses on what disaster the Moogle legend speaks of? Calamity of Fire? Pissed of Nidhogg's brood on a rampage?

The moogles refere to the calamity of fire.

This would've been the 3rd Umbral Calamity, the cause of which is still unknown. It's was assumed that the calamity of fire was due, at least in part, to Primal-Bahamut's original summoning by the Meracydians, though we know now Tiamat was responsible.

[Belhi]

Hmm... wasn't Xande the one who had Meracydia invaded? Considering his rule lead to the Calamity of Earth, that wouldn't leave a great amount of time between the 3rd and 4th Umbral Calamities. Further it would seem odd that the Allag would survive a Calamity of Fire without major damage.

I am hoping we have a little less Allag in the next expansion. I love the Allag but there is so many other periods of time and Calamities I'd love to know more about. We know next to nothing about over half of them.

[treuhavik]

Hmm... wasn't Xande the one who had Meracydia invaded? Considering his rule lead to the Calamity of Earth, that wouldn't leave a great amount of time between the 3rd and 4th Umbral Calamities. Further it would seem odd that the Allag would survive a Calamity of Fire without major damage.

An Eorzean Timeline.

Third Umbral Era - Element: Fire

Unknown Time --- Speculation: Possibly the rise of Bahamut?

Third Astral Era

~5000 (YA) ---

• Allagan Empire founded. Expands the entire continent of Aldenard and possibly Vylbrand.
• Allagan Empire constructs the Royal Allagan Sunway and Starway in present day Thanalan.
• Allagan Empire imprisons Bahamut. Possibly what brought about the end of the Third Umbral era.
• Xande creates the Allagan Empire becoming the first Allagan Emperor.

Fourth Umbral Era - Element: Earth

~4000 (YA) ---

• Allagan Empire's destruction ushers in the Fourth Umbral Era. Possibly due to imprisonment of Bahamut.
• Amon resurrects the first Emperor Xande, restoring the Allagan Glory as Xande proceeds to help conquer Meracydia which had long been able to withstand the Allagans.
• Earthquakes were caused by the Syrcus Tower's inability to handle all the energy being absorbed from the Sun. The Tower began to sink into the land and Amon used his magic to put everyone to sleep inside the Tower.

Given the timeline, it would seem that the pre-imperial Allagan (feudalist maybe?), or those of an "old empire" invaded Meracydia and provoked the summoning of Bahamut. It wasn't until later that Allag scientists invented methods of subduing and imprisoning aetheric beings (Omega, "Dalamund", etc) -- born from necessity, no doubt, as there happened to be a rampaging Bahamut plaguing Hydaelyn. It was through the capture of primals (and eikons?) that Allag gained their power and rose to their technological height, then they became a (new?) Empire under Xande's rule.

I am hoping we have a little less Allag in the next expansion. I love the Allag but there is so many other periods of time and Calamities I'd love to know more about. We know next to nothing about over half of them.

Same. The Allagan mysteries have to end at some point, though, right? ...right?

[Fenral]

If I were in charge of planning out the ongoing narrative...

The 3.X patches will re-establish the Empire as our biggest threat when they claim the power of the Triad (or even some hidden consolation-prize power sealed behind a certain chained door), and our next expansion will focus on liberating Ala Mihgo as a foothold in striking back against the empire once and for all, as well as the Allagan legacy hidden in Gyr Abania. Our guide to the latter will be none other than the man who rebuilt Ultima Weapon, Nero tol Scaeva.

At some point in the ups and downs of all this, it will become apparent that we simply don't have the luxury of time to wait until we fully understand Allag's remnants on our own, and Nero will take a quick off-screen trip to grab a certain Allagan historian, unaware that he had sealed himself inside when he shut down the tower. With Ghost Noah's timely assistance, G'raha Tia will be released from the tower, and the two will bicker their way back to Ala Mihgo in time to save us from the latest reawakened Allagan horror.

Ala Mihgo will be liberated, and we will move on Garlemald. There we will confront Varis once and for all, as well as the true legacy of Allag hidden within the history of the empire. Nero will decide to use his talents to help rebuild Garlemald, G'raha will lay the shadows of the past to rest, and Cid will (20 years late) bury the hatchet with Midas and learn to see the good that still remains in his homeland.

The final result of that adventure will mean the end of Garlemald's hostilities, as they now understand the true cause of the primal threat (as in, Ascians). More "stuff" we can't predict will happen, and the heavy concentration of aether in Eorzea will spread across Hydaelyn, enabling us to use our aether-fueled superpowers on other continents, setting the stage for future expansions that don't need to be specifically gated by the current story arcs.

But I'm not in charge of writing FFXIV, so they could drag it all on for much longer.

[Frederick22]

No no guys dont mess up.
The calamity of fire was not beacuse of Bahamut, and wasnt pre allag who invade Meracyadia, was the allag empire. This we all know too well
That time line you got is and, you should try to find one more updated, it is even said that bahamut cause the calamity of earth LOL, you serious? hahahahaha
All the events, occurred during the 3rd astral era, I'm not sure if the invation of Meracya was during Xande's second rull or not, but an empire cant conquer almost the hole world in only 1 reing, im kind to believe that the empire grow up on time during Xande's mandates. Also I'm almost sure that when the allag empire was created that mark the end of the 3rd umbral era, and on this im not quite sure but It was not the calamity of fire. It was the 1st umbral, the calamity of fire, the end of the reing of the gods on the earth.