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    Shadowsun's Avatar
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    Iselia Shadowsun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    Its training you for the shear number of fetch quests your going to have to do in HW.
    Nothing gets you ready for the moogle quests.
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    Yaelle Portelaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsun View Post
    Nothing gets you ready for the moogle quests.
    Einstien said "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Moogles weren't around back then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    Einstien said "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Moogles weren't around back then
    http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/10/einstein.html

    Sadly, I think you believe you're smart for trying to say Einstein said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisekuma View Post
    http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/10/einstein.html

    Sadly, I think you believe you're smart for trying to say Einstein said that.
    Einstein still said even if he was not first. Also .com's are not that reliable of a source, the sourcing seems good thou. Regardless it states that no one knows so saying Einstein said it is good enough at this point, like most history it is highly opinionated to one side (ie history is in the eye of the beholder, or the victor writes the history). So in the end all does it matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisekuma View Post
    http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/10/einstein.html

    Sadly, I think you believe you're smart for trying to say Einstein said that.
    Why when in fact he said it as well as Benjamin Franklin who might very well have been the first, a bunch of others have said it also. It actually is quite a common quote but most commonly attributed to Einstein.
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    Last edited by Tuathaa; 07-28-2015 at 02:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsun View Post
    Nothing gets you ready for the moogle quests.
    I personally hate Hinterlands with their endless "go there and come back here" quests.. I found Moogle quests to be fun..
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    Neuflune Mochiko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsun View Post
    Nothing gets you ready for the moogle quests.
    I personally hate the dragoon quests (the side quests in Western Coerthas). It doesn't even make any sense. The moogles are weaklings so it made sense that they would send us out to do their chores... dragoons make you kill dragons for them. Wut.

    As for the MSQ... those were implemented over many patches so I do not know how they can be condensed...
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    No, those quests are fine and are already short enough as is. Remember, after The Ultimate Weapon, every 20 quests or so for MSQ leading up to Ishgard is the equivalent of one giant patch.

    2.1? 20 new Main story quests.
    2.2? 20 more.

    This repeated until the final quest before Heavensward. So remember, you're basically going through various big patches before reaching HW, the story was ALREADY condensed reaching there.
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    Kayo Lireaux
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    Personally id prefer it if it were made completely optional at least after 2.0. Sorry but ARR is over. Story isnt as important to everyone nor is it really so complicated as to require much of a synopsis to catch people up on the sequels (Heavenswards) story. This isnt Wheel of Time or Game of Thrones, like 98% of ARR is just typical JRPG storyline #23478.

    I still dont understand those smug arguments of how "This is FF and FF is story driven" and "its part of the entire reason we're in Ishgard, herm." Um... so? Did anyone NEED to finish FFX to get into X2? No. FFXIII to get into XIII-2 or 3? No and no. Anything you needed to know was explained at the beginning or throughout the games (not that it was needed). Not to mention how its none of ANYONES concern whether or not I know, or care to know about anything in the storyline thus far. How about you all enjoy all the story you want and let others make their own choice? The only thing your self-righteous, story-forcing attitudes accomplish is drive more new players away.

    Of course condensing it a little to get rid of all the fetch quest b/s would be a nice middle ground to alleviate the problem.
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    Last edited by Kayote; 07-27-2015 at 10:50 PM.

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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayote View Post
    *snip*
    Ummm, I have played FFX-2 without playing FFX before it, and I was confused as hell... So much that I went back to play X after around 10 hours in X-2.

    Same would be with getting into HW without ARR, it just would not make any sense whatsoever.
    Not to mention that if you don't care about the story and just skip all the cutscenes, the MSQ is doable INCREDIBLY fast, and gives you a crapload of EXP, it's by far the fastest way to level to 50 (actually 51.5ish) right now.
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