Did Yoshida went a bit too far by cloning WoW?

[Gilthas]

But not as mounts.. since in FF you ever had chocobos as mounts.. and no flying mounts.. no its because of the LOOKS it has.. when you compare it to older screenshots..

and if you compare it to the offline series it has less in common with typical FF's. thats my opinion on that.

FF has also had flying mounts before. And dragon mounts too (though I think these were only used in cutscenes). Just because these weren't in FFXI or XIV 1.0 doesn't suddenly make them "not FF-like".

[ElHeggunte]

about the mount topic i could post also other mount pictures in comparison to each other (to go away from that "griffin topic"): [...]

Its your decision what you think about it... and yea. they came up with the idea of having more than chocobo mounts for a reason.
And yea.. other game mechanics are based on a specific game.

Why are you do desperate to call FFXIV a WoW clone? You keep using piss-poor examples that only show vague similarities. Of course FFXIV has a few similar elements to WoW. Most modern MMOs share a few similarities with it. Just like WoW shares things with the games that predate it. But having a handful of things being similar doesn't make something a clone. There are far more things different between the two than there are similar.

as yoshida told his dev team to play lots of WoW.. and he even stated that.

That doesn't make it a WoW clone. That's more about showing the team how a well-made game looks and plays, not necessarily that he intended for them to copy everything and give if a coat of Final Fantasy paint. That's common practice in the field of things like developing games and making movies. You have your people look at what works and (hopefully) use those ideas to go in your own direction.

[Nadirah]

To many folks, all games are wow clones.

Truth is, wow is an everquest clone. Which was an ultima clone. And so forth.

Wow borrows from other games as much as any other borrows from wow. The much lauded purchased level 90 characters? EQ2 did it first. And cheaper.

And OP picked the most awful, boring UI setup for comparison. That's not the default UI. It's a shittily modded one.

[Daralii]

I liked the look of them on a grand scale but I think hyperbolic and accusations is a bit of an intense wording, have you not seen the screen shots that show 20+ exact copy locations?

What would be considered copy pasta if not locations exactly the same within 30 seconds of each other? Just curious xD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OODPo9fzk0Q

There was so much copied and pasted terrain that it's mind boggling. 1.0 did some things well that ARR/HW didn't, but terrain is not one of them.

[Gilthas]

i mean if you play an offline fantasy and then FFXIV you see the differences very obviously. That MMorpgs these days can be similiar to their offline titles ..

Ummm, both FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 were very different from the offline FFs.

[AdamFyi]

me

Jokes aside;

Do you think that they went a little too far copying WoW too much?

That's based on opinion. For some people who have not touched or have lightly touched on WoW, they might think otherwise. As some others have said, if this isn't to your tastes, just quit.

Case in point in FFXIV is this cap nonsense.

I was rather enjoying what you were touching on and you pulled up some good points - but then I stopped reading here. There is no point in having everything now-now-now. What's with that mentality?

[Tonkra]

FF has also had flying mounts before. And dragon mounts too (though I think these were only used in cutscenes). Just because these weren't in FFXI or XIV 1.0 doesn't suddenly make them "not FF-like".

oh you are not talking about the scenery of FFXIII where they fall down and fang is summoning bahamut to catch them. flying mounts confirmed in FF series ;D

[Gilthas]

oh you are not talking about the scenery of FFXIII where they fall down and fang is summoning bahamut to catch them. flying mounts confirmed in FF series ;D

Nope, was talking about FFII and FFV.

[Tonkra]

Ummm, both FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 were very different from the offline FFs.

just because it has to be realtime for an MMO... FFXI for example had at least the same menu as within the offline titles:

[Vespar]

You really need to learn the definition of clone my friend.
clone = identical

None of what Ive seen in FFXIV is identical to WoW. They may have similarities but so does every other game in existance.

Thats like saying Killzone cloned Call of Duty or Dragon Age cloned Skyrim.