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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    And it's a WoW clone because they both happen to have snow-covered zones? Because snowy zones never existed in a game before WoW, right?
    Well they are called Blizzard entertainment.

    On a serious note there are a large number of things that XIV has done to modernize itself to the current MMO market, a market that was pretty much shaped around the successes of many of WoW's systems, for those coming from 1.0 it's easy to see where it feels like the game has lost some of it's FF identity from a design standpoint.

    The game does however try to make up for it by throwing tons of references to older FF titles via NPCs, story elements, and bosses / monsters but at it's core you can fairly say quite a lot of the game borrows from WoW's formula (by developer intent as stated by Yoshida), not everyone enjoys that aspect.
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    10/10 Almost posted serious response
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    The game does however try to make up for it by throwing tons of references to older FF titles via NPCs, story elements, and bosses / monsters but at it's core you can fairly say quite a lot of the game borrows from WoW's formula (by developer intent as stated by Yoshida), not everyone enjoys that aspect.
    this +++

    thank you for that. it was even stated by yoshida himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Though you think you are intelligent.. i meant the LOOKS of it. i said "which LOOKS more like AION/WOW to me). AION didnt had a griffin mount or did it?! Besides the fact that you never ever would ride a griffon, a blue glowing pony in any other final fantasy game of the series.. and that its a flying mount..
    Let me educate you ONE last time.

    http://www.google.com

    Use that so you can educate yourself, I'm tired of doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiker View Post
    Let me educate you ONE last time.

    http://www.google.com

    Use that so you can educate yourself, I'm tired of doing it.
    raiker yeah and im tired of talking to you about the griffin thing.. which wasnt my point at ALL..

    im tired of explaining this to you either. i think my fault was to just post one screenshot at that point.
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    Bottom line is...no matter how you design the game, someone is bound to be unhappy.

    The number of that "someone" determines the game design. Casual design wins more subscriptions, thus this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiker View Post
    Let me educate you ONE last time.

    http://www.google.com

    Use that so you can educate yourself, I'm tired of doing it.

    about the mount topic i could post also other mount pictures in comparison to each other (to go away from that "griffin topic"):










    Its your decision what you think about it... and yea. they came up with the idea of having more than chocobo mounts for a reason.
    And yea.. other game mechanics are based on a specific game.

    as yoshida told his dev team to play lots of WoW.. and he even stated that.
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    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovate

    Innovate: : to do something in a new way : to have new ideas about how something can be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    about the mount topic i could post also other mount pictures in comparison to each other:








    Its your decision what you think about it... and yea. they came up with the idea of having more than chocobo mounts for a reason.
    And yea.. other game mechanics are based on a game which i wont mention for now anymore.

    as yoshida told his dev team to play lots of WoW.. and he even stated that.
    I do feel like the chocobo system could be improved, emotionalized (word? lol) via further personalization and care, making them a larger part of the game. But on the bright side every photo you exampled FFXIV looks 10000% better and neither dragons or horses are particularly unique to the fantasy setting.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-26-2015 at 07:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovate

    Innovate: : to do something in a new way : to have new ideas about how something can be done.


    so its innovative to implement blue shiny ponys to Star Wars online too then? Innovative? Of course final fantasy evolves in its lore etc. but for me it just shows how they sold the identity for several things.. to make it WoW'ish and to make a commercial success...and thats not just the mounts.

    And no, implementing different mount types is no innovation.. since that is done by billions of other MMorpgs since i dont know.. a decade
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 07-26-2015 at 07:06 PM.

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