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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoria View Post
    You were not getting 1k sustained at i165 as a MCH, don't even lie.
    And why is that impossible? I know cooldown management and spamming 1 is hard... i165 with ravana weapon of course. if that matters.

    I'm getting 1.2k at my ilevel now. I dont know why everyone thinks its impossible.
    i should note i dont use a dragoon for dummy parses.

    1.3k should be really easy in faust because of its short duration, too. I'll do a video when I get back of my opener/rotation and whatnot. Just havent had the time to do it, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    And why is that impossible? I know cooldown management and spamming 1 is hard... i165 with ravana weapon of course. if that matters.

    I'm getting 1.2k at my ilevel now. I dont know why everyone thinks its impossible.
    i should note i dont use a dragoon for dummy parses.

    1.3k should be really easy in faust because of its short duration, too. I'll do a video when I get back of my opener/rotation and whatnot. Just havent had the time to do it, really.
    This is just not true, and I don't understand why you keep spreading misinformation across different threads. You keep mentioning this i165 1200 dps on a dummy no DRG involved. How about posting some proof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantalien View Post
    This is just not true, and I don't understand why you keep spreading misinformation across different threads. You keep mentioning this i165 1200 dps on a dummy no DRG involved. How about posting some proof?
    http://gyazo.com/e8aeee02b74b8a3c82efcc2a69f96b75 i167 from the other mch thread. i was over 1k at 3:00 so in this gear I'd still be over 1k in faust


    man. this game is hard. i should go play an easier one like runescape or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    http://gyazo.com/e8aeee02b74b8a3c82efcc2a69f96b75 i167 from the other mch thread. i was over 1k at 3:00 so in this gear I'd still be over 1k in faust


    man. this game is hard. i should go play an easier one like runescape or something.
    That's a 940 parse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    And why is that impossible? I know cooldown management and spamming 1 is hard... i165 with ravana weapon of course. if that matters.

    I'm getting 1.2k at my ilevel now. I dont know why everyone thinks its impossible.
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    I'm getting 1.2k at my ilevel now. I dont know why everyone thinks its impossible.
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    I'm getting 1.2k at my ilevel now.
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    1.2k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    http://gyazo.com/e8aeee02b74b8a3c82efcc2a69f96b75 i167 from the other mch thread. i was over 1k at 3:00 so in this gear I'd still be over 1k in faust


    man. this game is hard. i should go play an easier one like runescape or something.
    Isn't that a 4 minute parse?
    Which means the third Wildfire combo just hit with all the buffs like Raging Strike and Hypercharge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveriad View Post
    Isn't that a 4 minute parse?
    Which means the third Wildfire combo just hit with all the buffs like Raging Strike and Hypercharge?
    Its a more stable read of average dps. At least 30 seconds would have passed after the third wildfire, so it'll have stabilized after the burst. A 3:30 parse would be right after wildfire triggers and that would be inflated a bit.

    If they were using the i180 weapon, that sounds about right. you have to give or-take a variance of 20-40 because of crits on wildfire (which especially inflates mid-parse numberr so that really should not be taken at face value)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Its a more stable read of average dps. At least 30 seconds would have passed after the third wildfire, so it'll have stabilized after the burst. A 3:30 parse would be right after wildfire triggers and that would be inflated a bit.

    If they were using the i180 weapon, that sounds about right. you have to give or-take a variance of 20-40 because of crits on wildfire (which especially inflates mid-parse numberr so that really should not be taken at face value)
    I just think that MCH should be parsed for 3 minutes (Just right before Raging Strike resets) to see the average numbers for sustained damage.

    Because it's more or less :
    00:00 - 00:20 : Fully buffed Wild Fire combo
    00:20 - 01:30 : Keep up Hot Shot and Lead Shot, do Split Shot, Slug Shot, Clean Shot depending on what proc'd, adds some oGCDs to the mix. (The usual rotation)
    01:30 - 01:50 : Non Hypercharged+Raging Strike Wild Fire combo (Or alternatively, you can wait for Hypercharge and do the second wild fire combo at 02:00)
    01:50 - 03:00 : The usual rotation
    03:00 : Repeat step 1.

    At least that's what I think.
    Even though I wouldn't call myself an expert machinist just yet.
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    Last edited by Iveriad; 07-28-2015 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    I'm getting 1.2k at my ilevel now.

    read the bold part. please. i inquire you to read it.
    i know, i know, 1.2k is hard to comprehend, but please

    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    my ilevel now.
    quoted it again incase the 1.2k part confused you
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    All I asked for was some proof of the 1.2k no DRG, I literally don't care what your ilevel is/can possibly be right now. This is clearly not getting resolved unless you post a video, in which case I'll shut up and leave forever, but right now you're claiming you can easily pop out 100 more DPS out of thin air by "managing cooldowns." 1.3k on Faust? Not a chance...
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    Last edited by Dantalien; 07-26-2015 at 03:14 PM.