Hunt etiquette - early or not?

[Niwashi]

I saw something funny the other day. A big S rank was spotted, a few parties assembled and said "Holding for 60s for otw party members" Then out of no where a mage comes out of no where with a chocobo and pet in toe and pulls it. Surprisingly no one moved and the mage, his pet, and his chocobo all went down in a triple one shot kill.

The party leaders and everyone else just stood there and laughed until the last members showed up and we zerged it.

Mage was pretty pissed too when everyone refused to rez him.

Did he pull it with an attack? Or was it a face pull that could have been accidental (particularly if it were a pet or companion face pull)? I've seen issues like that with accidental pulls (and in that case, it would have been nice to rez him, though I agree with not doing so if the pull had clearly been deliberate).

[Kaiser-Ace]

Did he pull it with an attack? Or was it a face pull that could have been accidental (particularly if it were a pet or companion face pull)? I've seen issues like that with accidental pulls (and in that case, it would have been nice to rez him, though I agree with not doing so if the pull had clearly been deliberate).

Oh no, it was swift cast->Ruin II-> "Oh Shit!"-> Death.

I accidentally pulled a A-Rank while fishing when it saw through my stealth and one of the hunt healers Swift Cast me a rez because it was complete accident. Not this summoner though. He got what he diserved.

[Skathi_Asatru]

Someone in my hunt linkshell shouts a time countdown for a pull. But there is always some bozo who pulls before the time!

[Darkstride]

Someone in my hunt linkshell shouts a time countdown for a pull. But there is always some bozo who pulls before the time!

Really though, no one has a right to set a "pull time" and enforce it. I agree that it is a way to organize and help give time for others to gather, however Hunts are 'find and kill'. There are no rules indicating that anyone needs to wait for the entire server to gather before pulling a hunt. So I do think waiting is the nice thing to do, but it isn't a law and shouldn't be an expectation.

This is a situation where I feel like a lot of players needlessly play victim and are a major cause of the toxicity surrounding hunts. They are the true negativity. People rage about "early pulls" and then the name-calling and shouting begins. A lot of these same people aren't even tracking or 'hunting' these marks. They see people shouting and flocking and by the time the get their it is all over. No one was obligated to wait for you. If you missed it, suck it up and move along.

When players wait for you it is a courtesy so be grateful when you make it and when you don't, just accept it for what it is. Early pulls don't exist.

[Akei]

I hunt. I tell my party. Once most are close I'll yell to zone. Once my party reaches the hunt I'll spam my linkshells. Then I'll give roughly double the time it takes to run from the nearest bindstone to the hunt before I pull. If your ass dont make it thats your issues. I gave you time to port and run to the hunt. If you were messing with your retainer, finishing that FATE, fapping in town and did'ent make it .. then you were not hunting and have NO claim to the hunt mob and no argument over when it was pulled.

/end

[MieHanz]

Fairly new on hunting but in Jenova, often hafta wait for a few minutes 3-10min b4 pulling. I make it as a habit to inform FC, linkshare n shout if found A Rank n above. But it differs with S rank as it lagged like hell i cant get a decent hit on it

[DragonHunterG]

the only thing i wish people would do regarding "pull times" is use the Eorzea time, not server time. i'm sure there's a reason people do it, but my server info displays Eorzea time (set it like that) and always has for an idea on what time it is in the game world or when out gathering. so it's not like a major inconvenience, i just have to check my phone or clock in the room here instead of looking at the game screen for the time.

[Amiaze]

Are you guys exaggerating or something like that?
On Exodus, it's pretty common to announce and wait 2-3 minutes before pulling, and ask if anyone is on their way.

Hunt etiquette varies from server to server. The last server I was on was organized largely by one person who controlled all the linkshells with their friends. Early pullers were booted from all linkshells. After they left the server, it became every man for himself. Every hunt was a big deal, and many people weren't in linkshells at all. I got labelled as an early puller when I found an A rank and shouted it out for 2-3 minutes and even reset it once when someone said they were on the way. Hunts were a very intense ordeal there.

On Adamantoise, things seem to be far more stable. People generally wait for a bit before pulling, even for those not in linkshells.

Those who pull early are given a few seconds of grief, and then people just forget about it and move on to the next hunt.

I honestly think that hunts should be shouted out and that a person should wait for at least a minute before pulling. After all, S Ranks are more difficult to kill for a reason. They're meant to be taken down by parties. But at the end of the day, everyone won't get in on every single event. It just isn't possible. I missed most hunts that were shouted when I was on PS3 simply because of load times. But it's just a game -- albeit a really awesome and involving one -- and those hunts will respawn eventually. I think we make a bigger deal out of it than it really needs to be.

[Darkstride]

Another problem is that people assume that the first time they are made aware of the Hunt is the time the hunt spawned. Someone may have already been staring at it for 3 or 4 minutes forming a party and they could have already shouted once or twice. No one needs to wait for the entire server to be informed and then wait for the entire server to show up. Just because you hear about a hunt and then teleported into the zone doesn't mean anyone has an obligation to wait for you. If you're late, you're late. I've witnessed many occasions where people start getting nasty and name-calling for "early pulls" when they teleported into the zone much later after people had been standing around gathering at the hunt location.

[willibra]

Look, it's simple logic:

Is the hunt up? Yes

Are you standing in front of it? Yes

Is it dead yet? No

Are there more than enough people there to kill it? Yes.

Kill it.

Listen to everyone (who was taking a dump when their linkshell announced the hunt and are zoning in 10 minutes after it was found) tell you things that are more rude than the fact that you didn't wait for them.

I mean I actually had someone tell me to die once. We stood there for 5 minutes staring at an A rank. Hadn't seen a shout in the zone for an invite for the last 2 of those 5 minutes. We kill it. Someone shouts for an invite 2 minutes later. I tell them it's dead, then I am asked to commit suicide.

You will NEVER convince people that you did anything shy of kidnap their mother and brutalize her. That's what blacklists are REALLY for.