Naoki Yoshida, Balance the game please [War DPS TOO HIGH!]

[Reynhart]

Even if BRD, NIN, or MNK were to do far less damage than DRG, their raid utility is reason enough to bring them.

WAR IS the highest tank DPS (And, judging from the Dev answer, it's even designed to be this way) AND also brings Storm's Path and Storm's Eye, which is a massive raid utility.
While DRK brings...Blind, that doesn't affect anything but trash...Delirium, which is overwritten by MNK, on an ability that they WILL use to buff their DPS, DRK or not...Reprisal, which is unreliable, requires parrying and can't be up 100% of the time.

[SirTaint]

If DRK had a way of regaining TP it would be right up there with WAR. (assuming slashing debuff) WAR just gets such a massive advantage between TPless GCDs and equilibrium.

[Calib0s]

I presume that you guys go full Vit or at least a mix in between vit/str.(Speaking Floor 1 wise)

How much HP you guys have in Deliverance ? I can see an opening during Photon spear and Resin Bombs, but still the 10 second CD would make those transitions very risky.

I do STR spec and use 2 fending 3 slaying, but looking back I would probably have been safe dropping the fending entirely. I'll try that next week. What you can get away with will entirely depend on what your healers are comfortable with.

Really the only times in the fight that I have Defiance up are for about 20 seconds leading up to and including Hypercompressed Plasma, for which I also have Thrill + Convalescence. It felt necessary to ease the healing burden during that period, at least for progression.

I do Holmgang followed by Equilibrium + IB + Second Wind for the 1st and 3rd Plasmas, Vengeance + IB the 2nd and 4th.

Once I'm topped off after the tank buster, I swap back to Deliverence. I swap back to Defiance during the jump so that our Scholar can use me for a buffed Adlo+Deployment tactics, but swap back to Deliverence again as I pick up the Oppressor when it lands.

[Calib0s]

Specifically in reply to the topic of this thread, I don't feel that Warrior DPS is necessarily too high compared to the other two tanks (as OT). DRK is very, very close if they have access to the slashing vulnerability debuff. Paladin isn't too far behind, and provides other utility.

I do feel that PLD and DRK need a method for restoring TP.

Paladin DPS while tanking in Shield Oath is a bit hard to swallow when compared to DRK and WAR in their respective tank stances, but that's a whole other can of worms.

[abzoluut]

The misleading facts this OP gives. Talk about oxymorons...

I hope SE will keep adjusting jobs. With savage out, they can make proper adjustments. I just hope they don't go the nerfing route. We can provide them with great DPS data. Oh wait, we are not allowed to know numbers since we can't use prarsers....

The one thing I would like to say in reply to the OP: try and find some vids/stream of "gud" DRK's. Their damage is no joke. You would want a WAR or NIN in the group for the slashing debuff though.

[rawker]

Do also remember that the new PvP mode is already out and it "could" also be a factor in balancing jobs.

[Xenosan]

Do also remember that the new PvP mode is already out and it "could" also be a factor in balancing jobs.

What about it? *genuine question

IMO drk is the weakest of the 3 tanks in pvp. but that might just be preference, tho I'm skeptical. Living Dead doesn't offer what HG and Holmgang do for PLD/WAR. *There's also a whole bit more i could go into but don't wanna go on that tangent unless others wanna discuss

AST tho different story, they can kite like a SCH and turtle like a WHM

[rawker]

Seeing that the game has two modes, namely PvE and PvP, what works on PvE might not be working in PVP. Let's say for instance, Ley Lines. Do you think a BLM can successfully cast their spells in it? Another would be the very famous 2x fell cleaves. With holmgang, it's very impossible to dodge it. Now this is an issue that a tank does way better than a DPS and would greatly skew the playerbase who just wants to experience the game to its fullest. If not addressed then the already dying PvP will be as good as dead. If worse comes to worst, an ability will have its own mechanic on both modes which to me is just a lazy solution to the problem.

[Jim_Berry]

Are you aware that in FFXI, WAR could tank AND dps? Same thing here; the job was hella strong.

[rawker]

if it's intended, then there's nothing the playerbase can do but to adapt to it... or as some people do, bitch til they get what they want. that's the reality. but as soon as we don't get any response from the developers, the topic is free for debate.