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    So "Gordias" == "the Father." Original author of the Enigma Codex?

    "Midas" -> Mide? Did her dad summon Alexander 3 years ago?

    If I'm putting all this together... The overall "Alexander" allusion going on is that this "Alexander" is a quick-and-dirty solution (primal summoning) to a much more complex problem (the original Alexander ideal). Instead of actually working towards the goal outlined in the Codex, the Illuminati "chopped the knot" and summoned it as a primal instead. The desired result is achieved without taking all the steps needed towards what is, in all likelihood, an impossible ideal meant to be followed but never achieved, thus corrupting the end result.

    I feel like we've had another story eerily similar to this in FFXIV already. Chalk it up to "author appeal," I guess. Maybe I'm imagining it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    I feel like we've had another story eerily similar to this in FFXIV already. Chalk it up to "author appeal," I guess. Maybe I'm imagining it...
    Time flows like a river, and history repeats.

    It really is one of the wider themes of the entire franchise - that without conscious intervention, the mistakes of the past will be repeated in other forms. It even extends to FF's spinoffs - just think about where the above quite is from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDrake View Post
    It really is one of the wider themes of the entire franchise - that without conscious intervention, the mistakes of the past will be repeated in other forms.
    Except the other story I'm thinking of ended by finding a way to stop only the obviously calamitous repeat, leaving the perfect setup in place to repeat the original mistake that started it all. Can we please go to Eureka already?

    Cid seems to be quite a bit more skeptical of blatant, unrealistic idealism this time around, though, so I wonder if he'll take a less passive role in the events that unfold from here on.

    As for "Gordias," it's still too soon to say if he's an actual character or not, but we can at least be quite certain that "Gordias" is "the father" referenced the instance names in "Alexander: Gordias" (i.e. "The Fist of the Father").
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    I never actually considered that Gordias might refer to a character as "the Father". I mostly saw it as a way to reference the Trinity in Christianity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), as Alexander has always been a Holy or Light based summon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    I never actually considered that Gordias might refer to a character as "the Father". I mostly saw it as a way to reference the Trinity in Christianity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), as Alexander has always been a Holy or Light based summon.
    Well, Gordias is the father of King Midas. So I guess part two will take place in Alexander: Midas, with Fist/Cuff/Arm/Burden of the Son?

    inb4 someone brings up Cid's daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    So "Gordias" == "the Father." Original author of the Enigma Codex?

    "Midas" -> Mide? Did her dad summon Alexander 3 years ago?

    If I'm putting all this together... The overall "Alexander" allusion going on is that this "Alexander" is a quick-and-dirty solution (primal summoning) to a much more complex problem (the original Alexander ideal). Instead of actually working towards the goal outlined in the Codex, the Illuminati "chopped the knot" and summoned it as a primal instead. The desired result is achieved without taking all the steps needed towards what is, in all likelihood, an impossible ideal meant to be followed but never achieved, thus corrupting the end result.

    I feel like we've had another story eerily similar to this in FFXIV already. Chalk it up to "author appeal," I guess. Maybe I'm imagining it...

    I really like this way of thinking. We know Mide is looking for a man inside of Alexander, or atleast the works of a man, my first thought were the usual, something like a loved one, but thinking of a father makes so much more sense. I dont remember the exact time of the codex but its around 110 years right? I dont know exactly how a Au'ra with 110+ years would look like, but Mide defently looks younger. It would make alot of sense, and defently a good story line if she was looking for her father/grandfather works and we actually meet Gordias himself.
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