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  1. #11
    Player
    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taerra View Post
    I absolutely hate positionals. So NIN seemed natural to me .... until HW hit the deck .... yup back to casters
    Ninja is nowhere near as bad with its positionals as DRG is.
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  2. #12
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    Darrow Vindir
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Which would you say is the simplest dps?
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  3. #13
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    Taerra Elyssia
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 53
    Ninja is nowhere near as bad with its positionals as DRG is.
    Still too much for me to bare. The perfect spot to hit an opponent in a realistic manner is the back. Why dance around like a clown ?

    I just don't support that, and given now all melee are like that now, this means this game is restricted to ranged for me. Whoope-doo ...
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  4. #14
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taerra View Post
    Still too much for me to bare. The perfect spot to hit an opponent in a realistic manner is the back. Why dance around like a clown ?

    I just don't support that, and given now all melee are like that now, this means this game is restricted to ranged for me. Whoope-doo ...
    Hang on a minute. You only have two positionals as a Ninja.
    And both of them, are at the back.
    Aeolian Edge = Back
    Trick Attack = Back

    Oh, and Sneak Attack which is front. Which has a 60 sec cd, requires a set up, and shares cd with Trick Attack.

    Are you confusing Ninja with Monk?
    I personally enjoy the Monks positionals. It just feels good and fast paced to '' dance around ''.
    I prefer Casters in most MMOs, but I really like what they've done with melee in a Realm Reborn. Not so much with Casters sadly. I think that Casters feel a bit clunky in comparison to other MMOs :/.
    I dunno, punching someone at the side like Snap Punch is pretty damn efficent :P. I think it makes total sense why a Monk would '' dance around ''.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 07-24-2015 at 04:29 AM.

  5. #15
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Ninja has 4 positionals.

    Aeolian Edge - Back
    Trick Attack - Back
    Armor Crush - Side
    Sneak Attack - Front
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  6. #16
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    Ninja has 4 positionals.

    Aeolian Edge - Back
    Trick Attack - Back
    Armor Crush - Side
    Sneak Attack - Front
    I stand corrected ^^.
    I only looked at the abilities on my Ninja, haven't unlocked Armor Crush yet :<.
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  7. #17
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenae View Post
    Torn between ninja and drg myself...

    Love the feel and complexity of ninja, hate the mudra lag.
    Love the mobility and the straight forwardness of drg but hate that everywhere you turn there's another dragoon.

    What to do...
    Go monk. One of the highest dps (probably still the highest in raids) in the game with great raid utility. Mantra and Dragon Kick are staples in any serious prog group. I main warrior but my dps alt is a mnk and its by far the most flexible dps in terms of damage, positional, and play style, which I love. I'f you played monk in ARR the rotation is the same except the opener has been altered slightly but other than that we got a lot of ogcd moves that are easy to input so learning mnk at 60 is not that much different than at 50.
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  8. #18
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    Ninja has 4 positionals.

    Aeolian Edge - Back
    Trick Attack - Back
    Armor Crush - Side
    Sneak Attack - Front
    Sneak Attack/Trick Attack should really only count as 1 since you are only regularly using one (Trick Attack unless you can literally never hit the back and won't die going to the front). Semantics, I know!
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  9. #19
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    Makasita Fenrir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Go monk. One of the highest dps (probably still the highest in raids) in the game with great raid utility.
    MNK and DRG are functionally equivalent as far as damage goes, but I found MNK to take more time to get back up to speed once you have to disconnect. DRG's the more forgiving of the two when you don't have the luxury of standing there whaling on a dummy, since BOTD lasts a long-ass time compared to GL, and you can ride out the window for your fourth hit for 8 seconds, giving you literally "as the buff expires" capability to keep BOTD up.
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    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

  10. #20
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Ninja positionals only matter once every 30 seconds or so. You should be standing behind the mob anyways. Move to flank for armor crush and immediately move back. It's not as tough as people are making it out to be, and you're always going to want to use Trick Attack over Sneak Attack in group combat.
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