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  1. #21
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    Caidyn's Avatar
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    Caidyn Svalinn
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    Brynhildr
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    The problem is, this dungeon is not in ANY of the roulettes, not even in Main Scenario one.
    I foresee BIG problems in a month or so, since there will not be enough people running it, and players will get stuck in the story.
    This is another factor I honestly didn't even take into account when I created this thread, and an incredibly good point. I wouldn't be surprised if queue times to run this extend quite high even for the adventurers in need (Healers, Tanks). As mentioned just above, the cutscene would mostly remain a non-issue, as there's only the one, and it's relatively short. The law bonus for first time clear given to the party should be enough to shut up all but the most time starved "hardcore" player.
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  2. #22
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    sirDarts's Avatar
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    People are already having problems getting into it, one of my FC-members sat 1½ hours in queue to get in as DPS.
    1.5h to get into a story dungeon that's gating the end-game content?
    GG SE GG. :/
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  3. #23
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    They want to avoid the whole "skip cutscene" people make in the dungeons so they didn't put it in Expert this is only an assumption though but I believe I am most likely right.

    There's only 3 cs that auto play them selves 2 of which are at the last boss and you don't do that one 2 or 3 maned I'm sorry I ment 4 cs I don't count the one after the boss dies as a thing in this.

    Also I hope they just add to the existing expert roulette we only have 2 but even with just 3 it gets boaring fast.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 07-22-2015 at 08:54 PM.

  4. #24
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    Pharmacies's Avatar
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    Far Macese
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    The music there is my favorite. It seems like such a waste that there's no practical reason for me to visit it again. Also, what happens to stragglers who need the place cleared but can never find members through the DF?
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  5. #25
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmacies View Post
    The music there is my favorite. It seems like such a waste that there's no practical reason for me to visit it again. Also, what happens to stragglers who need the place cleared but can never find members through the DF?
    They might possibly end up adding it to Main Scenario roulette or some other roulette in 3.1 or when they see the amount of people needing it drop off. Trial Roulette still pops Steps of Faith, Chrysalis, Ravana, and Bismarck so there are still people leveling.

    Wouldn't surprise me if the new relic quest made us do all the HW leveling dungeons and trials again.
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  6. #26
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    Caidyn Svalinn
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    Brynhildr
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmacies View Post
    The music there is my favorite. It seems like such a waste that there's no practical reason for me to visit it again. Also, what happens to stragglers who need the place cleared but can never find members through the DF?
    The music, as well as the other Allegan dungeon Fractal, is some of the best I've head in the game, definitely.
    Currently the only real benefit of running this again is an extra few Law compared to the others.
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  7. #27
    add the i160 loot, put Esos on the last boss and add it to Expert.
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  8. #28
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    add the i160 loot, put Esos on the last boss and add it to Expert.
    Why put such high level gear there when the connecting final trial doesn't even require it? Not even the final runs in 2.0 had loot.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Why put such high level gear there when the connecting final trial doesn't even require it? Not even the final runs in 2.0 had loot.
    the Library drops 148 gear which is practically 150, how is 160 on the next dungeon such high level?

    it's a 4 man dungeon with multiple bosses, like all the other 4 man dungeons with multiple bosses. which other one doesn't have any loot?
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  10. #30
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    Taja Shin
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiya View Post
    Would be better for them to just add it to the expert roulette for the moment. As it stands the cutscenes are a nonissue theres only 1 before the boss fight and it isnt even very long.
    Yeah, but I guarantee you that pretty much every first-timer would get locked out of the final boss, which is the penultimate boss of the entire expansion. ARF is way better than Praetorium about not having a bunch of long cutscenes throughout, but there is one right before the boss, and another before the second phase.

    As nice as it'd be to have a third Expert dungeon, main story dungeons and speedruns don't mix. Let's not open that can of worms again.
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