Why do you need to put crafters' gears being seperate again?

[TitaniaZero]

The Specialist system doesn't discourage omni-crafting. In a way it kind encourages. All of the specialists abilities are nifty with some sharp punishments/hard to acquire situations. Far easier to level every class to 60 and acquire the the cross class skills.

[MN_14]

Specialists are kind of DOA. The skills you get for being a specialist aren't even worth using as they currently are, with maybe the exception of Nymeia's Wheel. It's not impossible to hit 60 with a single crafter, but it's not very efficient and certainly not as easy as it would be with the support of other crafts.

They've really made the level 51+ crafts interdependent on other crafts. You can purchase the crafted goods, but it'll hurt your purse-strings significantly.

Agreed. In practice, I think specialization is difficult for new crafters because of the high cost of materials. This, however, is more of an issue with the economy and how SE has balanced the drop rates of the raw materials. I think a lot of adjustments will be required for this to work properly.

Specialist abilities don't appear to be as effective as cross class abilities either, but it's possible that they are good enough for you to get by. The lack of good procs when working on master crafts is worrisome though, since it suggests that the level 60 specialist ability should be used, which eats up delineations (scrips/gil).

[Noxifer]

If it's just space you have 25 space for each gear ( 26 with the equipped one ) for 23 job and classes, there is no issue for that.

13+8+3 is 24, not 23 :p

This also doesn't take into consideration rings, for example. Sure, you have at least two classes/jobs sharing types of accessories, but... Then you have those issues where you're still levelling some classes because you only have one or two DoW/DoM at 60... and all of a sudden, you only have room for 12 sets.
This has admittedly been an issue for a long time, due to gearsets using two rings, yet ring box only supplying the same amount of armoury slots as other gear boxes, but it hasn't become any easier with an additional three jobs.

In the best of worlds, you have everything at 60, so your jobs can share accessories. This means you have VIT, STR, DEX, INT, MND, DoH and DoL accessories. Plus Eternal Bond ring for ringporting. 15 rings. That works. Unfortunately, very few people will be there for a long time.

Constantly carrying around 24 outfits, not counting relic weapons (once they add those in) to do relic stuff while still using the "latest and greatest" for raiding, not counting 'glamour sets in progress', not counting non-glamoured 'civilian' costumes (like actually wearing those swimsuits for impromptu beach parties), not counting spiritbonding sets, not counting seasonal events where you're required to wear one or more of that event's glamour gear, not counting using almost an entire page of your inventory for only rings (24 outfits, with staggered levels, equals 48+1 rings)... It's enough to drive almost anyone insane.
Switching out gear would be a hassle, since you'd have to move things in and out of the armoury to be able to switch the weapon...

For a game that prides itself on "you can (and should!) level all the classes in this game", they provide an abysmal number of armoury slots ;_;

[dragorian]

I hope they don't put the new craft gear upgrade item into Alexander savage

[Nyalia]

I'm just happy they provided two ways to get endgame crafter gear like they promised. You can either craft the i170 stuff and fully meld it, or you can use scrips to get the i180 unmeldable stuff. Before melding, the i180 chest has 5 more control and 14 more craftsmanship than the HQ i170. I wonder what the meld caps are...

[TitaniaZero]

Tis a fair point. My current idea on how I'm going to do things is Red scrip my crafter sets. Then if I want more power (or have the gil for it) I'll craft and meld/overmeld the 170 stuff. Of course this assumes the red scrips are not too difficult to get. >> Already finding it a pain to get blue scrips...

[Aeyis]

I'm just happy they provided two ways to get endgame crafter gear like they promised. You can either craft the i170 stuff and fully meld it, or you can use scrips to get the i180 unmeldable stuff. Before melding, the i180 chest has 5 more control and 14 more craftsmanship than the HQ i170. I wonder what the meld caps are...

I dont think youve checked ingame yet tho. Because this is the problem; there arent two ways just one: Red Scrips.

[Bishop81]

Just Why???
As if the armouire hasnt cramped up already with DoW/DoM, and developers think that giving additional seven seperate left side gears are good enough..

I just want to cry~~~~

I'm not happy about this either.

But if they didn't ... there will be players complaining that SE cheaped out on them with only one set of gear.

[DarthBuzzer]

I'm just happy they provided two ways to get endgame crafter gear like they promised. You can either craft the i170 stuff and fully meld it, or you can use scrips to get the i180 unmeldable stuff. Before melding, the i180 chest has 5 more control and 14 more craftsmanship than the HQ i170. I wonder what the meld caps are...

The problem with that though is the i180 token set will take around 1 and a quarter years to get, at which point it will be completely outdated.

[Orspeth]

Personally I'm happy the gear looks different. A cook should look like a cook and so on. We really need a separate armory for crafters apart from war/magic. Now the cost is another issue and the melding and so on so it certainly does have it's drawbacks.

I like this news, it feeds my uniform fetish. I'm no uber crafter, but I love the looks - is there a place to see photos of the new "uniforms"?