Are hunts irrelevant now?

[jazo]

you guys whining that upgrade items are obtainable in end game hardest raid realize that those upgrade items will be eventually be obtainable in the new 24 man raid in next patch right? no?

even so... other than e-peen what is the point in having the latest highest gear if it is obtainable in the hardest raid... you will have it and... what then? where will you use that new gear if there is no more challenge???

Enjoy the challenge at your pace and let L337 people get entertained doing something to show off

[Balipu]

you guys whining that upgrade items are obtainable in end game hardest raid realize that those upgrade items will be eventually be obtainable in the new 24 man raid in next patch right? no?


Enjoy the challenge at your pace and let L337 people get entertained doing something to show off

Again why do you (the raiders) need two sets of 210 gear? Because you have. 210 is the only tier with two sets of gear at the moment.

Also doesn't it bother you that you have to do the same content regardless of which set you want? Instead of maybe two raids of the same difficulty.

Giving the upgrades to the 24 will enable us (not hardcore raiders) to have gear on par with wath drops from Alex savage. That is unfair for you.

This system screws over everyone.

And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.

[SendohJin]

And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.

each floor only drops 2 items for 8 people. you need both the upgraded Eso drops + Savage drops to get a good iLv so that "mid-tier" raiders can meet the DPS and health checks of the higher floors. getting Savage Gloves doesn't make the i210 Esoteric boots useless to someone.

[Balipu]

each floor only drops 2 items for 8 people. you need both the upgraded Eso drops + Savage drops to get a good iLv so that "mid-tier" raiders can meet the DPS and health checks of the higher floors. getting Savage Gloves doesn't make the i210 Esoteric boots useless to someone.

A fair point. So explain please why

1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.

[Malevicton]

A fair point. So explain please why

1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.

1. Why shouldn't it be? You don't need to mix and match a bis 180 set for anything.

2. What other piece of difficult content?

3. It is.

[Balipu]

1. Why shouldn't it be? You don't need to mix and match a bis 180 set for anything.

2. What other piece of difficult content?

3. It is.

1. to give you a choice

2. Content that wasn't made but should have been.

3. It is not. Current is: token for gear plus upgrades for different gear. What I proposed was actual 210 gear, plus token to buy that very same gear. Let's say for example you got a belt and a token from a run. You then go and buy an accessory or a pair of shoes with the token.

[SendohJin]

A fair point. So explain please why

1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.

1) because 210 is the highest level and you want the highest level gear to bridge the gap for people who can't clear Alex Savage at i190. nobody needs two sets of i180 gear.
2) it takes 3 months of development cost to develop another piece of similarly difficult content, are you going to pay them for it?
3) yes and?

[Ashkendor]

Enjoy the challenge at your pace and let L337 people get entertained doing something to show off

Um. I hate to break it to you, but raiders don't raid to "show off" for non-raiders or to make them feel inferior or anything of the sort. We don't roll into the content and say to ourselves 'lol think how shitty those scrubs out there are gonna feel when we clear this and stand in town so they can see all of our shiny gear'. We actually raid to challenge ourselves and to progress in the game. Novel concept, I know.

And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.

No they aren't. Both sets have different stat allocations. BiS will end up being a mix of both sets.