This patch dropped the ball hard

[Iromi]

Yup, I agree OP. This feels like 2.0 with flying lol. I don't even bother telling my friends to come play. There is no horizontal progression like they said we'd have, no new and interesting stats, nothing new (like salvage, nyzul, sky etc) its like I am playing 2.0 all over again. Think it is finally time to unsub and move on.

There is no reason to get gear. Get it to do what? My trials? No thanks. There is really nothing in this game that requires social interaction or FC. There is no sense of community or reason to be social. Everything can be done alone or in the PF with strangers. Maybe if they add worthwhile content I'll come back someday. /shrug

[Korashy]

Yup, I agree OP. This feels like 2.0 with flying lol. I don't even bother telling my friends to come play. There is no horizontal progression like they said we'd have, no new and interesting stats, nothing new (like salvage, nyzul, sky etc) its like I am playing 2.0 all over again. Think it is finally time to unsub and move on.

There is no reason to get gear. Get it to do what? My trials? No thanks. There is really nothing in this game that requires social interaction or FC. There is no sense of community or reason to be social. Everything can be done alone or in the PF with strangers. Maybe if they add worthwhile content I'll come back someday. /shrug

This is like the most social mmo i've ever played, any more casual and you are playing hobo hotel

[Lexxuk]

Still in order to get those items you had to grind top tier content.
Actually this system is better because you are guaranteed a reward and it's not solely reliant on rng.

This system is unreasonable though, there are not just DoW/M classes, there are DoH/L classes which are being ignored and becoming obsolete, the gear we get to craft in 3.05 is total and utter rubbish, not even worth bothering crafting (for DoW/M). Yay, let me make you a bit of gear that takes up 200 of my weekly 450 allowance but is, well, total and utterly useless to you, but you can use it for gla... wait, no, they have the same skin as the lower one, umm, umm..... The gear isn't even as good as the stuff you get with LAW, SE are giving crafters obsolete gear to craft.

That is the major issue with the current direction of the game, Yoshi hates crafters, it's showing with each update just how much he has no idea what to do with crafters, so gives them stuff that's not even worth bothering with. Hell, there has been no PVP crafted gear since lvl 50, ilvl 55, you DoW/M may love your faux progression, but us DoH, where is our progression? Are we destined to spend every patch crafting for each other in the hope that one day we actually get something other than furniture or a minion to craft? Woo, I spent millions grinding up my Carp so I can make you a lovely minion, GO TEAM!!

[Ultimatecalibur]

I've raided enough in this game to know it's a complete joke. I mean the entire formula is, stand here, kill this, move there, kill that, win. The only reason I said "hardest content in the game" was because this content requires the optimal item level, which still doesn't equate to skill. Either way, nonraid gear shouldn't have it's upgrade locked behind these raids. It completely ruins the purpose or having two sets of gear for people.

The upgrade tokens will likely be rewarded as part of a weekly quest 24 man quest and through Hunts in 3.1.

They currently stagger content so that Raid rewards maintain "BiS" for 2 patch cycles so that players will maintain subscriptions for longer.

[Tuathaa]

There is really nothing in this game that requires social interaction or FC. There is no sense of community or reason to be social. Everything can be done alone or in the PF with strangers. Maybe if they add worthwhile content I'll come back someday. /shrug

That's because of x world\server DF has nothing to do with raids. Why be social and cooperative when there's no need?

[Kogasan]

Why can't when se introduces new raids aka Alex savage and stuff of the like can't they give us the ability to use hunts to get the upgrades. Why must we wait months for the ability to do so. Some people have a hard time finding statics to join to get into this stupid full party crap just to participate. Se really needs to rethink and fix this. Would be wonderful if either they let us join through DF or find another way for us to get the upgrades for estorics aka hunts. Why even have estoric gear with the ability to upgrade it if half of us can't even do so. Sounds stupid imo.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Still in order to get those items you had to grind top tier content.
Actually this system is better because you are guaranteed a reward and it's not solely reliant on rng.

You're guaranteed an award through rng as well. The only difference is that a game that is rng based (diablo, borderlands, phantasy star online) those games don't lock you out for a week. Instead they allow you to go through things as you want, Final Fantasy forces you to follow a pattern, complete this one question, obtain trade in item, receive gear, wait a week, rise and repeat. All I'm saying is that they could have implemented many ways for gear to be obtained yet they went with a method many people didn't like from the get go.

[LilithMakyomo]

Nope, you can do coil quite easy in i170

Ah, meant Alex. lol, still adjusting.

[Tuathaa]

This system is unreasonable though, there are not just DoW/M classes, there are DoH/L classes which are being ignored and becoming obsolete

This I agree with. This is the only mmo I have played that I haven't leveled a crafter\gatherer. The professions in this game imo suck and are un necessarily difficult not very rewarding and most definitely not fun.

[ApolloOphion]

450 is garbage im telling you im tired of it. >_<