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  1. #21
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    Klamor's Avatar
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    Klamor Oli
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall View Post
    Unfortunately i never understand these arguments. It is meant as a grind, so you keep playing. I for one wonder why people play, gear in a month, then unsub for 2-3 months until the next content patch. That money spent to earn gear, but then never do anything with it just baffles me.
    Gear your main, go complete the daily roulette and dungeons with your high ilvl main, farm the tomes, then use them to gear your alts, when alts are sufficiently geared, start taking them into the new content. Seems like a well designed system. You focus on getting one class geared (your main) then use it to supplement gearing of the alt classes.
    This girl(?) gets it.
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  2. #22
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    Iscariot Brathadh
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    You're spouting the same argument that goes relatively uncontested lol. The normal response is that people don't like the idea of their other jobs being kept gimped while their main is still acquiring gear. That, combined with the "I don't mind gear/tome caps" comments by the same people, makes one question life lol.
    But I don't mind caps. I grew up in the Lineage 2 era where you you could kill raid bosses all day for a week and get absolutely no loot. Compared to that this is a godsend.
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  3. #23
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by razzgrizz3 View Post
    i cannot believe they expect me to grind my balls off AGAIN on the same two dungeons.
    could have at least released new ones...
    Level 60 duties that you can grind:

    Bismark EX (8)
    Ravana EX (10)
    Singularity Reactor (6)
    Neverreap (40)
    Fractal Continium (40)
    Seal Rock (Seize) (20)
    Daily Roulettes (70 or 50 without PvP)

    Esoterics rewards from A1 through A4 (HM and Savage) are currently unknown.
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  4. #24
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    Windklinge's Avatar
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    Windklinge Wirbelwind
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    i expect the items to cost the same amount as before HW. so 1300 weapons 825 chest and pants. 495 helm/boots/hands and 275? not sure what it was anymore currently for the rest.
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  5. #25
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    SE should be more concerned about entertaining their consistent subscribers, that try to play more than 1 class, than scrapping for change from the on/off monthly quitters.
    ^ THIS, so friggin' much, I can't bold/enlarge it enough. Felt this way so many times I've lost count to be honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by madolyn View Post
    450 cap a week so what...like 3 months to fully gear left side either for wanting full set or if you don't plan to do savage? For a game that pushes the idea of leveling anything on one character, they sure do a hell of a job of screwing over those that play multiple jobs.
    ^ Yet another thing that I've felt numerous times... and it's not a nice feeling either. Definitely not something the paying customers one hopes to retain should feel even once, not to mention time and time again.

    And does someone care to explain why we still even have poetics? Damn thing has been capped and unused in all of HW. @_@
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  6. 07-21-2015 06:25 PM

  7. #26
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    Peekachu33's Avatar
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    Vlad Valentine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Windklinge View Post
    i expect the items to cost the same amount as before HW. so 1300 weapons 825 chest and pants. 495 helm/boots/hands and 275? not sure what it was anymore currently for the rest.
    Except there's no "oils" or "sands" this time, and upgrades to i210 are handled through an as of yet unknown esoterics cost. So add another week--or more--worth of tomes to that. If they keep the costs the same as pre-HW, that's rather an absurd time-sink just to gear a single class.
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  8. #27
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Peekachu33 View Post
    Except there's no "oils" or "sands" this time, and upgrades to i210 are handled through an as of yet unknown esoterics cost. So add another week--or more--worth of tomes to that. If they keep the costs the same as pre-HW, that's rather an absurd time-sink just to gear a single class.
    ^ and basically you're not even finished gearing that single job by the time new gear comes in (especially with them having explicitly said that the ilvl climb will be even faster in HW). Meh.
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  9. #28
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Peekachu33 View Post
    Except there's no "oils" or "sands" this time, and upgrades to i210 are handled through an as of yet unknown esoterics cost. So add another week--or more--worth of tomes to that. If they keep the costs the same as pre-HW, that's rather an absurd time-sink just to gear a single class.
    Illuminati Gobdip
    Illuminati Gobtwine
    Illuminati Goboil

    An alchemical potion/thread concocted/woven in the dark laboratoriums of the Illuminati. Some of the realm's more daring goldsmiths have applied the unnaturally illuminated substance to a variety of gems and found that it heightens the attributes of certain ancient martial artifacts.
    "Large Gordian Gear" is likely the token that you need to trade in for the AF2 weapons.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 07-21-2015 at 06:36 PM.

  10. 07-21-2015 06:34 PM
    Reason
    Misread patch notes

  11. #29
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    I tried hard in 2.x to keep all my jobs geared to tackle latest content. That was stupid.
    My current plan is Esoterics -> main, Law -> Alts.
    Bolts go to Main until i have all i need for main, then Bolts go to Alt accessories.

    And so on and so on.
    My Main job will always be in cutting edge gear, with my alt jobs 10~ ilvls behind.
    If i manage to fully gear my main job within the patch cycle, excess Tomes/Gordias will then go to my next favorite alt.
    And that is perfectly acceptable.

    The problem isn't the system, the problem is the people who think they should be able to max out the ilvl of 12 Jobs in 3 months or less.
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  12. #30
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Peekachu33 View Post
    In the patch notes it says that i200 upgrades are purchased with esoterics. I'm assuming those are the items you buy. Either way, it's an esoterics cost, the item is irrelevant.
    Wrong.

    Those items are purchased with tokens you obtained from Alex Savage. Pls read patch notes.
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