Naoki Yoshida, Balance the game please [War DPS TOO HIGH!]

[Ladon]

The reality here is they have given Warriors the best of everything with no real downsides to the class.

Maim is stupid easy to keep up and completely makes up for the lower combo potency. Any attack that matters in Defiance just ignores the damage penalty and of course Fell Cleave.

Fell Cleave isn't the major issue itself but it's way too good for the Warriors when you consider the rest of the toolset. Not really sure what they were thinking by giving Warriors of all classes a 500 potency skill. The job has a stupid amount of tools to stack damage, then to top it off it's only limited by a resource that is easy to store and refresh with available tools. Then give it the natural ability to crit often. And if all that isn't enough, give the job the easiest method to get into a DPS stance from a tank stance to use it.

Meanwhile the other two tanks have lesser abilities, no skill synergy to make them better and they are strictly controlled by resources and cool downs.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

PLD needs dps buffed for the simple fact no one would take a pld to alexander savage when you can take a superior dark knight main tank and warrior off tank.

[JibeMalkieri]

Agreed with OP, when Tank damage (war) is on Par with DPS (Brd and Mch in this case) then either those DPS need to be boosted or the tank needs to be nerfed...

[Ladon]

Agreed with OP, when Tank damage (war) is on Par with DPS (Brd and Mch in this case) then either those DPS need to be boosted or the tank needs to be nerfed...

The reality is both needs to happen. Back to back to back Fell Cleaving is complete non-sense. A minute recast needs to be added to it. Also the critical chance buff on Deliverance need to be done away with.

PLD then needs a method to regen some TP otherwise they are in a good spot if the Fell Cleave spamming is done away with.

DRK need a lot of work. TP regen is a must, they need some kind of party dmg increase skill and they need a cool down or two to allow for some better burst dmg.

[Launched]

WAR doesn't need to be touched at all. With Storm's Eye, it's barely ahead of the other two in DPS, and in any serious content Eye should be up the majority of the time. If you want PLD to be the best physical tank and DRK to be the best magical tank then WAR needs to get something too, and right now SE has decided that that's better TP sustain and slightly higher damage.

[Noira]

A tank shouldn't be outdpsing you.

Also why would you put fell cleave on a timer ? You do know you can't spam the ability right ? The reason war has that insane dps (it's really not that great, what do you expect that we would still do the same dps as 2.0 despite the gear and level upgrades ._. ?) is again due to beserk and storm's eye.

War is also a burst tank, but once that burst vanishes we have to rebuild it back up.

Finally unless you are MTing in deliverance (in which case as a Astro/SCH I hate you with all my being) what is the problem ? Deliverance is meant to be off tank I highly doubt alex savage will allow War to get away with mting in that.

You guys are using easy content to jutisfy a nerf to the class, you don't even know what alex savage will hold ._.

[Reynhart]

Finally unless you are MTing in deliverance (in which case as a Astro/SCH I hate you with all my being) what is the problem ? Deliverance is meant to be off tank I highly doubt alex savage will allow War to get away with mting in that.

But WAR can switch to Deliverance (transfering all its wrath stack to Abandon), use Fell Cleave, use Infuriate, use Fell Cleave again, and back up in Defiance in a 10-second window.
10 second without any big damage is not uncommon, like in A4 right after you kill the first foreleg.

[Kiteless]

But WAR can switch to Deliverance (transfering all its wrath stack to Abandon), use Fell Cleave, use Infuriate, use Fell Cleave again, and back up in Defiance in a 10-second window.
10 second without any big damage is not uncommon, like in A4 right after you kill the first foreleg.

Which also removes the option to use Inner Beast, which costs you a significant amount of mitigation, should you opt to take this route. And by burning Infuriate, you need to spend a considerable amount of time rebuilding those stacks. Not to mention that you'll need to be healed when switching back to defiance. And while there are certainly times where that is an optimal decision to make, having that choice is one of the perks of being WAR.

[Reynhart]

Which also removes the option to use Inner Beast, which costs you a significant amount of mitigation, should you opt to take this route. And by burning Infuriate, you need to spend a considerable amount of time rebuilding those stacks. Not to mention that you'll need to be healed when switching back to defiance. And while there are certainly times where that is an optimal decision to make, having that choice is one of the perks of being WAR.

"Considerable" amount of time ? PLD and DRK's mitigation cooldown want to have a word with you

Indeed, it's WAR perk...that still puts it far above other tank DPS as MT, whereas its mitigation is pretty much on par too.

[Noira]

Like kiteless said at the cost of damage mitigation.

Do you see how people are going against their own points ?

Deliverance is not as op as you think, from a healer perspective it is highly annoying to watch a War blow their 2 stacks of abandon on fell cleave then take a huge hit without even popping a cooldown prior to it.....

As a War it annoys me further because your deeps don't matter if your dead.

Like it's fine to tank in deliverance but for the love of GOD, please use a damn cooldown if you know a big hit is coming, foresight, hell vegenance even raw intution.