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  1. #11
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    Kiteless's Avatar
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    Bluethroat Cantus
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    When Captain America throws his mighty shield!
    All those who chose to oppose his shield must yield!
    If he’s lead to a fight and a duel is due,
    Then the red and the white and the blue’ll come through.
    When Captain America throws his mighty shield!

    I like this idea. SE should implement it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faytte View Post
    I would love to see the CD of CoS go down by 10 seconds (to 15, the same length as the DoT).
    I would love to see the base aggro on our combos go up to be closer to other tanks.
    I would love to see clemency turns away from being a clunky spell to a simple gcd (2.5 seconds vs 3) which solves the issues of
    1) Spells can be interrupted. Really--we are tanks.
    2) Casting spells prevents you from blocking or parrying. Really--we are tanks.
    3) GCD's scale off skill speed, spells need a state none of us get. Really--we are tanks.

    The ability is already gated by mana anyways.
    All of these sound reasonable. SE should implement these too.
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  2. #12
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    After some years playing a paladin in WoW, the Avenger's Shield (bounces to 2 additional nearby targets) is one thing I miss the most. But obviously it doesn't fit the design philosophy of FFXIV.

    FFXIV, in many places, tries to be both a hardcore and a casual game. It's easy to maintain enmity as a baseline, but the tools are very limited to differentiate between the skilled (or informed) and the unskilled (or the uninformed) tank. Shield Lob bouncing off to multiple targets would be a completely casual friendly skill that diminishes the appeal of the PLD to the more micro-managing players.

    I would welcome it, since the only time we ever use the Shield Lob is to initiate a pull or to give us something to use while at range, might as well add some nice shiny fluff to it. As long as it still keep its high TP cost, it cannot be used as part of an "aoe-rotation", and that shouldn't affect too many of the micro-managing crowd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faytte View Post
    I would love to see clemency turns away from being a clunky spell to a simple gcd (2.5 seconds vs 3) which solves the issues of
    1) Spells can be interrupted. Really--we are tanks.
    2) Casting spells prevents you from blocking or parrying. Really--we are tanks.
    3) GCD's scale off skill speed, spells need a state none of us get. Really--we are tanks.
    Definitely. My Clemency got interrupted 3 times in a row last night and it really felt...sad.
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    Last edited by Zfz; 07-21-2015 at 05:53 PM.
    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  3. #13
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    Aradari Starshade
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    Cerberus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes View Post
    Explain what that is and I might have an answer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHTa8QXxJg (If a picture speaks 1000 words, then what does a video speak?)
    Seriously though, it was a shield throw spam build that was basically shields flying everywhere. I used this build in Diablo 3 and can say it was very fun to play. You needed jekangbord which was a shield for the shield throw to split more and Gyrfalcon's foote to lower the cost to something reasonable.
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  4. #14
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Therdyn View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHTa8QXxJg (If a picture speaks 1000 words, then what does a video speak?)
    Seriously though, it was a shield throw spam build that was basically shields flying everywhere. I used this build in Diablo 3 and can say it was very fun to play. You needed jekangbord which was a shield for the shield throw to split more and Gyrfalcon's foote to lower the cost to something reasonable.
    Not to mention that the male crusader voice actor is the same as urianger's.
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  5. #15
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    Miranda Madison
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    I want to go upside the head of a lot of people here with tomahawk instead..
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  6. #16
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    I want to go upside the head of a lot of people here with tomahawk instead..
    pfft, i wanna throw an axe using Ash's cleave axe as the graphic to hit everything in an AoE radius >_>
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  7. #17
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Paladin Lv 90
    As others have said, that would be way too much like Avenger's shield from WoW (man I do miss that ability, paladin tank was my main in WoW for years) and while I certainly approve of the idea I doubt it would happen.
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    Stormageddon Oath
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    pfft, i wanna throw an axe using Ash's cleave axe as the graphic to hit everything in an AoE radius >_>
    I feel like if you tried to do the Avengers shield toss with an axe you'd encounter an issue where the axe would become "stuck"
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  9. #19
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    Sol Darkwater
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    Lamia
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    Miner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiteless View Post
    When Captain America throws his mighty shield!
    All those who chose to oppose his shield must yield!
    If he’s lead to a fight and a duel is due,
    Then the red and the white and the blue’ll come through.
    When Captain America throws his mighty shield!

    I like this idea. SE should implement it.



    All of these sound reasonable. SE should implement these too.
    Why thank you =^.^=

    Sadly I do not think these forums are really viewed closely by SE. It's kind of hard to suggest thing--I feel the Japanese forums gets a lot more love than our own
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    White Princess
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Ya, I really miss that move from wow, prob will never happen here. To bad even if it did junk white dmg, that would make it so fun to see and hear. Sometimes its the simple things that make us happy playing a job. Its almost as if SE forgets its a game to have fun with just to be different. I guess flash doesn't get me excited when using it, I think I had more fun using flash on ff11 oddly yet its almost the same move...
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