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  1. #11
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    Quest text says the Sharlayan civilization is thousands of years old, so their ways of creating magical things from animals and inanimate objects (the brooms) could be a by-product of mis-interpreted lost Allagan knowledge. I recall Y'shtola being shocked at the depth of depravity the Allagans were capable of, when she saw the experiments.

    Didn't the spoken races discover magick centuries after the 3rd Astral Era? It's a stretch, but maybe Sharlayan is that missing civilization that caused the Calamity between Allag and Amdapor. Maybe that triggered the need to hoard knowledge so closely?

    Either way, all roads lead to Allag (and Ascians)
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    That's a pretty goo theory, we don't know who caused the Iceage and the Sharlayan existed for a very long time.

    It's easy to overlook, and its interesting, if not concerning that Sharlayan magic can pretty much "create" life in the form of their poroggo familiars/servants.
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    Remember Ixali Beast tribe quests?

    They are building an Airship to get to a floating continent.

    What if, over time, the story got corrupted (chinese whispers) but where they are trying to get back to is in fact where they where created, Azys Lla. That their memories of flight are genetic memories of their original stock that the Allagans used to genetically modify to create the Ixali.

    Just like the Moogle legend of how they came to the twelveswood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    What if, over time, the story got corrupted (chinese whispers) but where they are trying to get back to is in fact where they where created, Azys Lla. That their memories of flight are genetic memories of their original stock that the Allagans used to genetically modify to create the Ixali.
    The plaque in the Fractal Continuum seems to imply that they lost the power or flight due to genetic instability and weakness to the elements (which, combined with known Ixal lore, suggests that they were able to thrive under the protection of the Twelveswood and Elementals, but succumbed once forced into exile). The rest is right on, though, as recently all-but-confirmed by Yoshi-P via Bayohne.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Q30. Is the Iksalion that appears in the Fractal Continuum related to the Ixal? If so, is the Ayatlan they are searching for during the beast tribe quest actually the floating continent Azys Lla?

    A30. Azys Lla, Azyslan, Ayatlan... Talking about it too much would take the fun away from it, so I think I’ll leave it at that. By the way, if you go and talk to a certain NPC in the Ixal beast tribe quest area after clearing this, their dialogue will change. There are a lot of other examples of this, so be sure to check out various NPCs.
    The dialogue change at the Ehcatl Nine camp is that after Sezul Razel tells you that they'll reach Ayatlan no matter what, he notices that you suddenly have a solemn expression and assumes that the majesty of Ayatlan has simply stricken you with awe.
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    I still find the similarities between Lalafell and Sylphs...suspicious.

    It's understandable if you're worried about degrading the proud heritage of "Anony Moose"--as Baderon's log names you--but the question will be answered eventually. Wouldn't you feel better knowing sooner, rather than later?

    C'mon, let's rip that band-aid off. ;P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    The dialogue change at the Ehcatl Nine camp is that after Sezul tells you that they'll reach Ayatlan no matter what, he notices that you suddenly have a solemn expression and assumes that the majesty of Ayatlan has simply stricken you with awe.
    I'm curious about this. Is this in one of the Ixal quests? After doing the Fractal Continuum I went back and talked to all the Ehcatl Nine and they didn't have anything new to say. I just talked to Sezul again to be sure and all he talks about is me being a true ally to them. I've done the final tying all the Beastman quests together quest, so it's not due to me not being far enough.
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    It's there. It's the guy with the "what is this place" and "what do you do" options
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    Hropkens might also be a product of Allagan tinkering, if the Proto-Hropken fish that can be caught in Azys Lla are any indication. Also, there's this....

    http://en.ff14angler.com/?spot=0&fis...t=0&cmd=search
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    Quote Originally Posted by finiteHP View Post
    I went back and talked to all the Ehcatl Nine and they didn't have anything new to say.
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    It's there. It's the guy with the "what is this place" and "what do you do" options
    Yeah, I named the wrong birdman, lol. It's Razel Huizan the Stationary - ask How fares the Ehcatl Nine?

    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    C'mon, let's rip that band-aid off. ;P
    Yeah, maybe... >.> It's all very circumstantial evidence, though, and I'm not sure Fractal made it any stronger, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    Hropkens might also be a product of Allagan tinkering, if the Proto-Hropken fish that can be caught in Azys Lla are any indication. Also, there's this....

    http://en.ff14angler.com/?spot=0&fis...t=0&cmd=search
    Honestly, that tells me that the Allagans experimented on Lalas, just like liek they did Hyur and Roes
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