Strength Tanks and You.

[Fiaryn]

I'll be honest here. In my mind, a tanks job is just to tank. His job is to yell at the enemy and say "Hey attack me!". It's the dps job to do the killing. If a tank wants to dps that badly, he should have rolled a dps class then. May seem archaic to some, but it's just how I see things.

A fairly quick and simple explanation of why this thinking is backwards and objectively incorrect.

You're playing a Dark Knight. One Dark Arts boosted Power Slash is generally enough to hold threat for the entire fight if you're equivalently geared to the rest of your party.

What, precisely, are you doing with the rest of the fight then? Because if it's not "optimizing your damage while rotating cooldowns appropriately", you're a bad Dark Knight and you're wasting everyone's time.

Edit: A tank that's actually doing good DPS can be worth as much as 70% of another DPS class, to give you an idea how much this can bring to the table.

[Ferrasper]

A fairly quick and simple explanation of why this thinking is backwards and objectively incorrect.

You're playing a Dark Knight. One Dark Arts boosted Power Slash is generally enough to hold threat for the entire fight if you're equivalently geared to the rest of your party.

What, precisely, are you doing with the rest of the fight then? Because if it's not "optimizing your damage while rotating cooldowns appropriately", you're a bad Dark Knight and you're wasting everyone's time.

Edit: A tank that's actually doing good DPS can be worth as much as 70% of another DPS class, to give you an idea how much this can bring to the table.

My response would then be SE didn't design the fight appropriately to the point where you have to focus just on hate management, or they lower the amount you make. I don't want to diverge this topic much anymore though from its original goal. I just wanted to state my peace, and that was it.

For your edit, a tank shouldn't be doing that much dmg. Increase the dps for dps classes then if that push is needed.

[Fiaryn]

My response would then be SE didn't design the fight appropriately to the point where you have to focus just on hate management, or they lower the amount you make. I don't want to diverge this topic much anymore though from its original goal. I just wanted to state my peace, and that was it.

For your edit, a tank shouldn't be doing that much dmg. Increase the dps for dps classes then if that push is needed.

"Shouldn't" does not mean anything. What we are describing is the paradigm that has existed since 2.0 launched. It's a feature, not a bug. Opinions do not change the functions of classes.

The statements of the dev team regarding actively designing around the expectation of healer DPS in Heavensward suggest that this trend is not going anywhere.