Why do people hate Bards so much??

[AskaRay]

WM is separate from songs it uses no MP and can be sung with any other song?

I'm starting to worry no one reads tooltips anymore...

[Ferrasper]

WM is separate from songs it uses no MP and can be sung with any other song?

I wasn't aware of that. That's good to know.

[Wishles]

Because Bards' DPS ceiling is the lowest with MCH. If there are two BRDS in my party, one is going to be kicked.

[Ferrasper]

Because Bards' DPS ceiling is the lowest with MCH. If there are two BRDS in my party, one is going to be kicked.

I hope you are not referring to your daily expert runs because if you are. That's just wrong and vindictive.

[Gamer3427]

Because Bards' DPS ceiling is the lowest with MCH. If there are two BRDS in my party, one is going to be kicked.

There are some parties that do this, but I can also confirm as a MCH that some of my fastest runs of the newer content have been with Bards in the party, while some of my slowest have been with NINs and MNKs. The problem is that the more Elitest players out there see the classes as "low max DPS", so they automatically assume that that means a slower run, when in fact it could go either way just as it can with any DPS player. There are some who work to put out strong DPS, while there are others who have the potential for high DPS and barely put out as much as the tank who's staying in their tank stance.....

[Vaultic_Fang]

People hate on the class now cause it's the new Dragoon.

[Evangela]

they do low damage even before HW and will cause the duty running slower.

and most of them don't play songs to support the others.

[AskaRay]

they do low damage even before HW and will cause the duty running slower.

and most of them don't play songs to support the others.

If you need that TP song you have to speak up. Not a mind reader. (Though. Soon. TP bar. Yes..)
And I won't play Foe if the healer is the only caster and they are not DPSing at all. I will play for NIN if I remember to.
I play Mage's Ballad for a healer or a SMN if they drop around 30% MP. I've had healers tell me they don't need it but they are few.
I'll play Army's Paeon for myself unless someone asks. Because, yanno, not a mind reader.

[RiceisNice]

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Even with the 1 second lead, that's only enough for 1 oGCD ability which can reset its cooldown, along side other oGCD abilties. Fire I animation completes as soon as the fireball hits, or if you used an oGCD like a buff, tranpose or an instant cast thunder. The latter doesn't apply to heavy shot's proc. You will still hard cast a straight shot even if you got the buff from the previous one until you wait one second after the GCD from using heavy shot ends.

Straighter shot does not pop immediately until heavy shot's animation ends, but that happpens after the GCD finishes because the animation does not start until after the 1.5 second cast, nor does using an oGCd to cancel heavy shot's animation work.

[Ferrasper]

If you need that TP song you have to speak up. Not a mind reader. (Though. Soon. TP bar. Yes..)
And I won't play Foe if the healer is the only caster and they are not DPSing at all. I will play for NIN if I remember to.
I play Mage's Ballad for a healer or a SMN if they drop around 30% MP. I've had healers tell me they don't need it but they are few.
I'll play Army's Paeon for myself unless someone asks. Because, yanno, not a mind reader.

Are you sure you're not a mind reader? I thought that was a new ability they added.