We should have a "Lance mage", "Ninja Sword mage", "Fist mage"

[Aiselia]

Which means some of you may have to just "suck it up" as it were.

Just because other people may like it doesn't mean I have to like it or that I can't voice my complaints, nor does it mean that change cannot happen.

Although if anyone would complain about going back to the old play style of bards, I'd wonder why they became a bard in the first place if they didn't like the old play style of bards.

So no, nobody has to "suck it up". We can continue to voice our displeasure, whether we have your blessing or not.

[YanderePrincess]

Preferring this new style doesn't mean they didn't enjoy the old, nor does enjoying the old mean they would like to go back to it.

[Grimm08]

God, you guys are still whining over this? You can't have it all, play your job and if changes come, rejoice, if they don't, suck it up or move on to something else.

Oh, and one more snippet I'd like to add: "Barrage is useless now cause we don't get auto-attacks".
Have you looked at your abilities recently? Barrage doesn't have the same effect at all.

And I love how people bring up valid points, things that completely counter whatever the hot topic is at the moment, and that's just overlooked or ignored.

[Aezelas]

Have you looked at your abilities recently? Barrage doesn't have the same effect at all.

No, we haven't. We're just complaining over something non-bards know better than us.
Thanks to your enlightening, i now love the change.

[Tila]

No, we haven't. We're just complaining over something non-bards know better than us.
Thanks to your enlightening, i now love the change.

To be fair, many bards aren't giving WM a fair go, and then complaining that their half assed attempts are failing.

[aabe]

The thing I find funny is that in 2.x, there were no annoying grievances you could have as a BRD related to playing the job. Now, you lose DPS if you have to move, you can't sidewinder immediately after venomous bite because it won't get the potency. You can't react to your proc. You have to forego your GCD to pop cooldowns sometimes.

In order those are problems BLM and Melee, SMN/SCH, BLM again, and casters in general have had each of these problems for 2+ years and people are going nuts about it.
I understand that people don't like the huge change in playstyle but they're all complaining about issues other jobs have had to deal with for years. Talk about spoiled by a job that never had their optimal DPS punished by anything besides having to play songs, which were of course well worth it because songs were the reason every goddamn raid had a BRD.

[Wishles]

To be fair, many bards aren't giving WM a fair go, and then complaining that their half assed attempts are failing.

To be fair, there are too many people like you who don't even have a 52 or 60 BRD and don't know what you're talking about. Why don't you actually level one and find out how the new playstyle is like. Now compare it to other classes. Why don't we add a cast time to 70% of your WAR abilities. Let's see how you like your class then.

[Aiselia]

To be fair, many bards aren't giving WM a fair go, and then complaining that their half assed attempts are failing.

To be fair, why should they? This is a game, after all. If their class isn't fun for them, why should they "give it a fair go"?

If someone didn't play a caster because they didn't like being rooted in place to cast, "giving it a fair go" wouldn't do anything.

[Tila]

To be fair, there are too many people like you who don't even have a 52 or 60 BRD and don't know what you're talking about. Why don't you actually level one and find out how the new playstyle is like. Now compare it to other classes. Why don't we add a cast time to 70% of your WAR abilities. Let's see how you like your class then.

Not a fair comparison in the least. But I understand your angry. The number one complaint concerning BRD by far in ARR was its low damage. The problem is, they couldn't have the high damage coupled with high mobility. WAR on the other hand had all its big issues fixed early in ARR, so the expansion brought quality of life changes. BRDs couldnt have it all, but in ARR its all they asked for.

It was said earlier in this thread. Melee deal with a great deal of things by virtue of simply being melee. Most of them have to juggle a lot more when it comes to their rotations at that. What BRD got was complexity when it was once a faceroll. I imagine the devs didn't like seeing such a faceroll class, and saw absolutely nothing but whining about how BRD didn't do enough damage. So killed two birds with one stone.

[Evangela]

It's bards' problem. stop blaming the other jobs for your problem.