Dragoon or Monk

[Daega]

Only that Tornado Kick has a 1 minute CD and by the time ravana disappears again you don't have it ready.
Monks don't thrive on such things, the only job that is mostly unaffected by it would be Ninja.

So you obviously haven't learned to play your new 3.0 monk. No TK isn't up for every jump but a large majority of them. You can also charge FC and form shifts for almost every long jump. Learning every fight allows you to time and predict when phases change and how to be prepared for them. If you cannot use TK effectively before the jumps then you're doing it wrong.

I personally love TK and FC. Yes FC could use some love and QoL improvements, but these are great abilities and people that QQ and whine about it not being worth it are just bad at adapting, overcoming, and benefiting. I really look forward to these abilities in PvP. They will help with very much needed monk burst damage.

And these "Which is better" posts are getting annoying as well. Read the guides and posts of all the classes to see their strong points, weaknesses, and any other info. Experience them to feel the play style, watch and witness them in action, and talk to them in game. Every class has it's pro's and con's and can be utilized in ANY raid group as long as you learn to play your class efficiently. Find that class that feels right, plays right, and that your enjoy playing.

[Atreides]

stuff.

You're quick with jumping conclusions.
Please don't just start judging people because of opinions, we're here to discuss whether a Dragoon or Monk is more useful in a raid environment.
Right now it would obviously be the Dragoon because of his offensive utility, and I still fail to see how Monk profits in ANY way from downtime.

I am well aware of Chakra stacks and Form Shift and make full use of them, there is still no benifit from downtimes, those skills just help us to make the best of it instead of waiting for our stacks to fall off.
I don't think those skills need any change outside of QoL changes like 5 stacks outside of battle.

I was only saying that Ninja is the least affected by it because he only needs to reaply slashing resist (if the Warrior doesn't already do it) and go bonkers.
Dragoons lose their Blood of the Dragon, Monks their GL3.

Thats a minor issue though, Monk DPS is still up there and I have yet to see anyone outparsing me. (Okay Summoner are beasts in A1-2)
I have yet to see one of those amazing dragoons, so far I only had acceptable ones but none came close to what I hear in the forums.

DPS wise (Outside of dummy parses) none are better but if every melee is in a good spot you take the one with the better utility and thats where Monks currently lose.
While Dragonkick is still an amazing ability because of the Int debuff it's nothing that makes the Monk unique anymore because the Drk can do it too.

[Daega]

..we're here to discuss whether a Dragoon or Monk is more useful in a raid environment.

My question would go down such as:

Which of those two is more helpful in end game raids and pvp.

Raid: Greywolfamakir makes a good point as far as utility.

Easy answer:
Battle Litany > Mantra
Piercing Debuff > Blunt Debuff.

MNK has Int down which is very nice for magical damage. This can also be used by DRK.

PvP: Dragoon has probably had the best burst damage in pvp for a long time now, but there is new pvp coming very soon so "Please look forward to it". With the max level sync'd to 50, Monk has the utility with OIP, silence, mantra, and the special skills.

Which End game armor looks better?

Neither. The Law gear looks horrible IMO. Alex gear is getting better. But there are many many new outfits that work very well for glamour and can make yourself look very unique.
The new AF armor is not out yet besides several trainers or w/e you can see which may be the final say, I don't know this. Either way this is all personal choice and can be looked up on market board or ffxivdb.

And which of these two right now does the highest dps?

Supposedly DRG on dummy's with parse and MNK/NIN slightly behind. But this is not a major factor. Any class can out dps another if they play better than the other. So if you pick DRG and suck at it then it doesn't really matter does it? As a monk I am consistently top dps in almost any group I'm in unless it's aoe. Even then I'm still extremely high with the new skills like Elixir Field and PB Rockbreaker+buffs.

This was actually the OP question. My point still stand that it doesn't matter which you choose. Pick the one that you enjoy and have fun with. You can make ANY class DRG/MNK or other work fantastically if you play it well.

Hope this brings it back on focus.

[Atreides]

Pick the one that you enjoy and have fun with. You can make ANY class DRG/MNK or other work fantastically if you play it well.

See this is a thing we can agree on.