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  1. #51
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    justinjarjar's Avatar
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    A second example would be play through SWToR without doing story (god that would be painful). A lockout I can also think about that evolves classes is Death Knight from WoW (while I understand that they got rid of the reqs. to get them now). I'm not saying it is good design, I think the biggest argument is over the jobs and less so the story (which is fantastic and is a large part of the game). Not every mmo should be the same and this one has a solid progressive overarching story that is only good if seen form start to finish. Is it a bit long winded? Sure but the the title FF kinda comes with that. Is the end game great and a god goal to get to? Yes, for the most part no one will say otherwise. As of late however people/mmo players care less and less about the journey of getting to max level and loving the lore and side quests and are more about lets get to the end of the content... and wait for new content. If that is how you want to play good for you, but instead of focusing on just "getting" to end game why not have fun with the characters and story, new mechs and epic bosses, and the overall leveling experience. That's just my two cents and if just getting to the end is your only reason to play maybe you should find a new hobby. Maybe speed running?
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  2. #52
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    Daeya Star
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnpuSegawa View Post
    "with the King right in the middle of it."
    Boot your tank because the King should never be right in the middle of anything going on.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    I Remember those days, "Oh my friends already ran earlier today.. looks like I spend 6 hours going LFG then"
    If your friends won't help just because they got theirs done already, you may want to reconsider who you call "friend".
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  4. #54
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    Dyegov Drane
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    I tend to agree with you. I'm also new and I was very frustrated about having to do a ton of little useless quests after I saved the world. I'm still far away from HW, but I understand that this is a story driven MMO, like any other FF game, and so it makes sense.
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  5. #55
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    Miranda Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I will tell you why in 3 words - Story Driven MMORPG.
    That's two words and 6 letters.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumabear76 View Post
    If your friends won't help just because they got theirs done already, you may want to reconsider who you call "friend".
    It's not as bad in this game thankfully, but it was 'a thing' in FFXI. If you didn't do with everyone else, you were screwed. Friend or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    Snip.
    If you went onto the PS Store and looked up Final Fantasy XIV one of the first things thrown in your face is the Heavensward bundle. Naturally, many people will look at this with no chance of knowing they had to complete all of 2.0 and buy it as it is the most recent addition of the game. On Amazon, the only way you'd know you had to complete 2.0 is because it's on the customers Q&A. They big up the new jobs but there's no warning on the gating.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/have-Realm-R...sin=B00UUYVMH6

    If you bought a hard copy in a shop I can guarantee it'd be the same.

    Than and Mattiz - This game needs more players like you.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    Wrong no where on any promotional material, packaging, steam, se store or ps store does it say that. Believe it or not, not every one checks forums or Dev letter\blogs before buying a game.
    Players must first complete the main scenario quest "Before the Dawn"?

    The above is a quote from the HW release notes. I found this by visiting the main ff14 hw promotional site.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    Wrong no where on any promotional material, packaging, steam, se store or ps store does it say that. Believe it or not, not every one checks forums or Dev letter\blogs before buying a game.
    Or we could not assume he bought the bundle because if you go on the SE website the bundle is $60.
    He bought it for $40.
    That is HW alone.
    This is why it's better to look up information on the game before purchasing.
    This is smart for any purchases really in general.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ortamus View Post
    If you went onto the PS Store and looked up Final Fantasy XIV one of the first things thrown in your face is the Heavensward bundle. Naturally, many people will look at this with no chance of knowing they had to complete all of 2.0 and buy it as it is the most recent addition of the game. On Amazon, the only way you'd know you had to complete 2.0 is because it's on the customers Q&A. They big up the new jobs but there's no warning on the gating.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/have-Realm-R...sin=B00UUYVMH6

    If you bought a hard copy in a shop I can guarantee it'd be the same.

    Than and Mattiz - This game needs more players like you.
    The info can be found through the main promotional website for ff14 hw. That's how I found it. That's how I learned what I needed to do to catch my character up. Sorry the OP didn't do the same.
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  10. #60
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    I agree that in some cases it is not completely open about it (which amazon and PS store is not SE). But being an informed buyer is up to the consumer, companies are not out to "get ya" but sometimes stuff is not as clear as it needs to be. I think with the amount of shoddy PC ports and the amount of day one dlc problems the gaming industry has been having people would do more research before paying 40/60 bucks.
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