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  1. #11
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    Dhex's Avatar
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    As is the Gordian leg & feet pieces are exceptionally good for tanks so those are my primary focus - the hand/head/body slots are less than exceptional and I will likely not have completed gathering items for those pieces by the time Esoteric tomes are released - those tarnished Gordian components are still valuable for alt classes potentially so I can see why people are trying to obtain their quota of items quickly.
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  2. #12
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    Kenji1134's Avatar
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Has it been stated just how the loot system will work in Savage?
    Are we going to see tokens again, or items? Will it be AF all over again, where tanks need 3 different sets if they want to play different classes for different fights? Or 3 sets of healer gear.
    If it is tokens, will it be a single token per item, but with a turn lockout as opposed to a loot lockout as we have now?

    Anything at all?
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  3. #13
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Has it been stated just how the loot system will work in Savage?
    Are we going to see tokens again, or items? Will it be AF all over again, where tanks need 3 different sets if they want to play different classes for different fights? Or 3 sets of healer gear.
    If it is tokens, will it be a single token per item, but with a turn lockout as opposed to a loot lockout as we have now?

    Anything at all?
    Both. Two item drops per floor, plus one token to each person upon clearing. There's a weekly lockout for loot (including the token) but the floors can be re-entered if you've cleared. It does, however, impact the number of loot chests at the end as it used to in FCoB. I'm assuming it would be the same so 1-4 people would mean 1 chest and 5+ would mean none. I doubt it'll be 1 token = 1 item, but we don't have that info yet as far as I know.

    @OP - what I'm doing is taking the Alex pieces that I like the stats on. The tank body, for example, is awful. The hands are pretty bad too. Whatever we're getting from Esoterics couldn't possibly be worse. So I'm focusing on feet, legs, and accessories. After that I'll start gearing up alt jobs cause what else am i gonna do with them tokens? :3
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 07-15-2015 at 05:35 AM.

  4. #14
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterLucie View Post
    You and your raid are playing poorly if you need piety on all of your gear as a whm. I've solo healed all of the available HW content except for A4 and haven't ever struggled for MP.
    Do you run with 4 bards or something?
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  5. #15
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    MisterLucie's Avatar
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    Yorin Liefhart
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Do you run with 4 bards or something?
    One bard, and Ballad is only used during transition phases such as bloody fuller or whatever the name of bismarck's is. There are currently no fights in the game where damage patterns are unpredictable and unavoidable damage is really high enough to warrant spamming high mp heals. A4 is the only fight out right now that actually requires two healers just due to how the mechanics of the fight work.

    You only need as much piety as how bad your group is at avoiding AoE.
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  6. #16
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    Character
    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Different or multiple reasons...

    1) To reach ilvl 190 faster.

    2) Glamour use

    3) Preparing for BiS.

    4) two of the above reasons.

    6) All of the above.

    After all if the new tome gear weekly cap lock is low, the fastest way to get to ilvl 190 for more stats is by Alex Raid which a player can easily get 2 or 3 ilvl 190 gear in one week compared to the Weekly Tome gears being 0 or 1 gear per week.

    By this a player can obtain 2 to 4 ilvl 190 gear in 1 week by getting both Alex gear and Esoteric gear.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 07-15-2015 at 06:33 AM.

  7. #17
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Esoterics will probably have a weekly cap
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  8. #18
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Character
    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 55
    You can get the whole set in 5 weeks assuming you planned accordingly and got the correct tokens. There's no reason to wait at all.
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    Well its an upgrade apart from law gear minus body for mch so why? Considering how long it takes to geta 2nd and 3rd 60.
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  10. #20
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterLucie View Post
    You and your raid are playing poorly if you need piety on all of your gear as a whm. I've solo healed all of the available HW content except for A4 and haven't ever struggled for MP.
    You have progressed coils when it was fresh and everyone was at the lowest end of the item level?

    I have and can tell you: piety is one of the most useful stats when starting in a fresh released raid.

    The main reason: The HP of the party members are low at the beginning of the gear progression and the unaviodable damage hits hard. In Final Coil it was needed more than before to waste mana for overheal, because the whole party had to be on max life to have a good chance to survive the mechanic. Mostly full life wasn't enough, so there was a need on massive damage migitation too.

    Actual Ex Primals and Alex Normal are a cake compared to what BCoB, SCoB and FCoB was in the early month.

    After outgearing all of them got much easier. But that will not be the case next week.
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 07-15-2015 at 07:05 AM.

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