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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Why people are rushing to exchange their Alex tokens?

    AF2 i190 gear is less than a week away. Some of its pieces stats will be tailored for your main job and will be better than generic 1-for-all-healers or 1-for-all-tanks gear.
    Why, having MP problems after a few expensive Raises on my WHM I'd rather wait AF2 head, gloves, belt with Piety than get Protoype piceses now (which have zero MP and I actually prefer Asuran with less defense and healing power just for extra Piety).
    At the very least I'll wait to see AF2 stats before exchanging anything.
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    NoRyoKu's Avatar
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    Noryoku Nory
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    Siren
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    because savage raid is released next week so we need the gear, plus getting a full set of AF2 will likely take 1 1/2 months at 450 tomes / week so better get geared right now and change the gear later
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    Nabian's Avatar
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Why would you hold onto the tokens. You do realize that Alexander (Savage) will drop a different set of gear? Although SE specified in the live letter that players will receive a token from Alex Savage. This token will likely be for different gear. Unless you are planning on using the tokens for alts then there really isn't any point in holding onto them at this point.
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    Deviant One
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 60
    What your saying makes a lot of sense, but it doesnt make too much sense to hold onto them either as long as your getting good pieces with your main stats like crit or det.

    Even if they come out with a better piece, i can spend the tokens/eso on other slots to get better bang for the buck.
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    Why would you hold onto the tokens. You do realize that Alexander (Savage) will drop a different set of gear? Although SE specified in the live letter that players will receive a token from Alex Savage. This token will likely be for different gear. Unless you are planning on using the tokens for alts then there really isn't any point in holding onto them at this point.
    It works both ways. If you're gearing up multiple jobs, I'd recommend saving your Alex tokens until 3.1. Why? Because you can compare the BiS items with two sets instead of one. You don't need the 190 for Alex normal, and it's not going to disappear either if you don't upgrade for the week.
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    Yorin Liefhart
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    You and your raid are playing poorly if you need piety on all of your gear as a whm. I've solo healed all of the available HW content except for A4 and haven't ever struggled for MP.

    You're really doing a disservice to yourself by sacrificing so much throughput for so much unnecessary MP. Savage Alex *might* have such intense healing requirements as to require every piece to have Piety, but I highly doubt it. You only need Piety to a certain point, and after that it's a completely wasted stat.
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    Last edited by MisterLucie; 07-15-2015 at 05:32 AM.

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    i got 2 Cranks and i main healer, what else am i going to do with them? buy the Casting Gloves? what good does that do me?

    having the Alex gloves means i can spend Esoterics on everything else.
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    Taja Shin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    i got 2 Cranks and i main healer, what else am i going to do with them? buy the Casting Gloves? what good does that do me?

    having the Alex gloves means i can spend Esoterics on everything else.
    Yeah, I don't see the point in hanging onto tokens that can only be used for one piece of gear. When I have 2 pedals, I can only turn those into a set of boots, there's no flexibility. What benefit is there to not just turning those in? My esoterics will get spent on other slots instead. Splitting Esoterics and Alex gear between multiple jobs, when both currencies have weekly caps, doesn't seem like a great idea either.
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    Last edited by Keres; 07-15-2015 at 04:59 AM.

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    Izzy Pollux
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    Faerie
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Why is the ilvl 190 gear even in the game? Is the intention that many players may not even be capable of completely the new raid and this lesser gear is an easier alternative? It seems weird to me to make so much gear irrelevant so quickly.

    This is coming from past experiences with the first few expansions of WoW where the best gear at any given time was the best gear for 3-4 months at a time before a new season or a new raid came out. You also really needed earlier best gear to get the current best gear. You couldn't just go from level 60 dungeon greens to the best possible level 60 gear.
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    It works both ways. If you're gearing up multiple jobs, I'd recommend saving your Alex tokens until 3.1. Why? Because you can compare the BiS items with two sets instead of one. You don't need the 190 for Alex normal, and it's not going to disappear either if you don't upgrade for the week.
    With the exception of the bolts for accessories each of the items require a different type of drop. I understand your logic but we don't currently know what ilvl the Alex (savage) or esoterics gear will be. They have specified that Alex gear will be higher ilvl than alex normal (possibly i200). If esoterics end of being ilvl190 with the possibily of an upgrade to i200 with loot drops from Alex savage (most likely scenario based on past history) then I still feel it would be better to get the items now so you can be as close to i190 when alex savage gets released
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