It kind of sucks being a new player

[Dualblade]

If there is only one of the 50 HM dungeons that you do, make sure it's Tamtara Hard Mode. Read the scattered diary notes throughout. Enjoy the final cutscene in all its classic horror glory.

Also don't plan on sleeping that night.

Tam-Tara wedding venue when?

Also on-topic: While alot of the dungeons are pretty fun and I'm glad I unlocked them when I did (and while it isn't quite as bad as right now, when I had re-started playing after stopping for a while I had to unlock bout 75% of the current ones.)...I do think they should change it so you just have to UNLOCK all of them, not complete all of them. More so since there will probably be a Hard Mode 2 for the 60s, giving its own rewards that will probably use the same lockout this one has.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Hard Roulette is ~not~ an effective way to get Laws.

I kinda disagree. You can run hard once a day and not noticeably impair the speed at which you gear up. Its just not that big of a deal.

[Rhot_IRL]

I started fresh on May 25th this year (did not play FF14 before this time). I am now ilvl 183. The game is amazing, and it doesn't take long to catch up.

I actually love that the developers expected me to play through the "old" content and experience everything, compared to WoW where old dungeons became 100% irrelevant outside farming transmog (glamour) and mounts. Feels like I'm playing a real game again lol.

[Ashkendor]

I honestly don't even use my high level roulette for law. I use trials, high level, and low level for leveling alt jobs from 50-60, and just get law from expert roulette. When I was grinding for my main, I'd jump into tons of parties with people asking for help with first-time clears for Research Facility, Neverreap, and Fractal because bonus law is awesome that way. Going in a premade and grinding the law dungeons is also reasonably fast.

[Voltyblast]

I'm sorry to hear that about the high level roulette being so unfriendly toward new players: unfortunately a lot of people don't understand that those old dungeons used to be more relevant back then and on top of that players had more time to unlock them. They weren't 15 at the beginning!

And really, not all of them are really that fun: besides Wanderer's Palace NM, Brayflox HM, Amdapor Keep pre-nerf and maybe Pharos and Copperbell HM pre-nerf, the others weren't that great nor different: trash->run corridor->do boss->repeat. This is personal opinion but having 15 dungeons to catch up, while it's quite a lot, doesn't always mean they're good and WP HM, one of the last 3 dungeons before expansion, was probably one of my most hated dungeons of all (gotta love those long, pointless corridors).

As always, Quantity ≠ Quality.

[Ayuhra]

Honestly I have yet to unlock High Level Roulette either, due to speed grinding MSQ for Heavensward when I joined the game a couple months ago (I did get my GC rank up but I enjoy hunting). I geared up pretty darn fast just doing low level and trial roulette then grinding on Fractal and Neverreap... Although you WILL grind on those two dungeons until your eyes bleed.

[Atrayl]

OP, I'm going to list your mistakes, in the order you made them:

1. You navigated your browser to http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv. Clearly, you must have been new or drunk.

2. You logged in. Rookie mistake.

3. You browsed to literally any subforum, but what is particularly egregious is that you browsed to the General Discussion subforum.

4. You had the gall to start a new topic that doesn't blindly support the game, the franchise, or the developers. You should have known your place as a paying customer whose opinion is worth less for some reason that I will not articulate at this moment.

5. You clicked the submit button like a foolish fool.

6. You failed to realize thay the way you want to play the game is objectively wrong (dare I say scientifically wrong? Yes, I do so dare) and you're not welcome here but if you could please continue to give the developers money so that they can keep this game relevant and make things I like then that would be great just stop posting your opinion that doesn't agree with mine sorry not sorry just kidding no seriously.

[Keylus]

Also those fifteen dungeons don't give experience. <3

I think that this is the problem

I didn't had all the HM dungeons completed at the beginning of HW, so I needed to do them, and even if they were amusing they felt too unrewarded. No experience, no useful gear (Actually, I get some pieces for posible glamour) them felt like I spend 30 just to check a name on a list

[Colt47]

The entire problem lies in the fact that we aren't really playing as much as doing work in many respects with unlocking certain systems in the game at the moment. For Roulette people are going through older content that gives no experience or rewards outside of glamour and can feel left out when they see everyone else already with the roulettes unlocked. Though on the plus side, the older dungeons still give philosophy, which can be used to get some starter gear for HW, and with some minor updates like adding relevant currency to first time completion at max level, a lot of these quibbles could be put to rest.

[Xairos]

Scientifically, play is work. It's just work you happen to enjoy. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that playing this game in any capacity does not (Scientifically) require doing work.

Furthermore, I would posit the question of what is the difference between grind and just plain playing?