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    Everyone keeps saying I rushed the content, I didn't even know there was content. These dungeons are all but hidden to new players. Now that the MSQ rewards tons of exp the only time I would have naturally found them is when I level an alt and do side quests.

    Also Satasha and other HM dungeons are not new content. It's the same rehash of low level dungeons I've already seen. Some of these dungeons are cool, granted, but I would much rather explore them at my own leisure or through the roulette when I grind for law on my main or an alt. Instead SE is forcing me to see content I've already seen or wasnt force upon me via MSQ.

    A lot of this thread is veteran "I did it so do you git gud" mentality that drive players away reguardless if they are "bads" or not. Having run level 50HM dungeons doesn't make you vastly more skill when it comes to HW content. Especially when guides are available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    Everyone keeps saying I rushed the content, I didn't even know there was content. These dungeons are all but hidden to new players. Now that the MSQ rewards tons of exp the only time I would have naturally found them is when I level an alt and do side quests.

    Also Satasha and other HM dungeons are not new content. It's the same rehash of low level dungeons I've already seen. Some of these dungeons are cool, granted, but I would much rather explore them at my own leisure or through the roulette when I grind for law on my main or an alt. Instead SE is forcing me to see content I've already seen or wasnt force upon me via MSQ.

    A lot of this thread is veteran "I did it so do you git gud" mentality that drive players away reguardless if they are "bads" or not. Having run level 50HM dungeons doesn't make you vastly more skill when it comes to HW content. Especially when guides are available.
    Oh believe me, the areas in the dungeons are VERY different from their story versions.

    Regardless. There is NOTHING forcing you to do them. Hard roulette is not something you NEED. On average it doesn't give more than running Expert roulette again due to the chance for new player bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Oh believe me, the areas in the dungeons are VERY different from their story versions.

    Regardless. There is NOTHING forcing you to do them. Hard roulette is not something you NEED. On average it doesn't give more than running Expert roulette again due to the chance for new player bonus.
    It offers 100 bonus. Is this a one time deal or daily?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    It offers 100 bonus. Is this a one time deal or daily?
    Daily, resets at jp midnight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Daily, resets at jp midnight
    Ok well to me 700 in a week seems like a lot especially if it was a means to also experience old content. I just wish it was at that pace. This is my first job, some of you act like there aren't a ton of other classes I'm going to have to dungeon grind to level and I won't see these. It's just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    It offers 100 bonus. Is this a one time deal or daily?
    Daily, but as said, you can just do a second run of the Expert roulette, since every dungeon in the Expert one nets 80 LAW, and you can get a 40 LAW bonus if you have a new player in your group, it also nets ~100 LAW on average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    Also Satasha and other HM dungeons are not new content. It's the same rehash of low level dungeons I've already seen. .
    Incorrect. They're very different from their SM versions. Different stories, different layout and different bosses.
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    Last edited by Elim; 07-15-2015 at 12:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Incorrect. They're very different from their SM versions, with new bosses.
    Then I'm wrong about them. I'd still rather see them in the roulette than be force to do them to unlock the roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    Then I'm wrong about them. I'd still rather see them in the roulette than be force to do them to unlock the roulette.
    Forced to enjoy content that is new to you? :/

    Back in the day, you could do a roulette without unlocking all of the dungeons connected to it. However, people would purposely not unlock certain dungeons (WP) so that they never got it. So the devs implemented the lockout. That way pops weren't horrible for dungeons that weren't favored by the tome farmers.
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    Last edited by Elim; 07-15-2015 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Forced to enjoy content that is new to you? :/

    Back in the day, you could do a roulette without unlocking all of the dungeons connected to it. However, people would purposely not unlock certain dungeons (WP) so that they never got it. So the devs implemented the lockout. That way pops weren't horrible for dungeons that weren't favored by the tome farmers.
    "YOU'RE GOING RO RUN THIS CONTENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT!"
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