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  1. #11
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    Perzeval's Avatar
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    Perceval Haizen
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 80
    If you are MT for A4, yes, I can agree with that. If you are OT however, staying in defiance for most of the fight would be a huge damage loss, the only time I turn on defiance is when I'm grabbing a lot of balls.
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  2. #12
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    Sapphidia Wulfhaven
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Question: has there been any hint of when higher level accessories might be added into the game?

    I'm definitely planning on getting a full Penta meld set, but are the current i150 white HQ items worth it? They're clearly better than a full Asuran set of course. Should I wait if there was supposed to be better quality jewellery coming, and save my money, or do you think it's worth buying a pentameld set right now?
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  3. #13
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    Sakasa's Avatar
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    Sakasa Kuro
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphidia View Post
    Question: has there been any hint of when higher level accessories might be added into the game?

    I'm definitely planning on getting a full Penta meld set, but are the current i150 white HQ items worth it? They're clearly better than a full Asuran set of course. Should I wait if there was supposed to be better quality jewellery coming, and save my money, or do you think it's worth buying a pentameld set right now?
    The best guess is after the release of alex savage 2 with i160 accessories where it might be somewhat useful but greatly over powered by the main stats from drops from alex normal 2.

    ~edit addition~

    best guess seems a bit more opinionated then I meant it to be. The development cylce from 1 > 2 > 3 coil placed the accessories on pre release of the the next turn and they were 10 ilvl behind current and 20 ilvl behind highest tier but left side gear predated the pattern. So the assumption from their statements is shifting it back 20ilvl be hind current and 30ilvl behind highest tier. With crafted left side as a model being i160 current tier 180 highest tier 190 then the jump to savage.
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    Last edited by Sakasa; 07-15-2015 at 04:18 AM.

  4. #14
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    Ditto's Avatar
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    Echo Sindria
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Perzeval View Post
    the only time I turn on defiance is when I'm grabbing a lot of balls.
    HEH

    But yes he's right, as OT in A4 you should almost never be in your tank stance. You could even grab balls while not in your tank stance and be fine really, throw a CD up and just faceplant a few of them. As a War, Equi in full STR accessories should be able to heal you for a crazy stupid amount, so you should be able to hit like 2 balls, Equi, hit another 1 or 2 before you actually need the healer. Though you'd need Defiance for that anyway so may as well.
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    Last edited by Ditto; 07-15-2015 at 04:22 AM.

  5. #15
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    Ulfheonar Wolfhiem
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    If were talking dummy parses I do more than that as WAR without all the penta melded crap, and more as DRK, and maintain the same off-tank DPS as DRK/WAR in all of Alex, well I MT 4 as DRK because DRK is the better tank, the only problem with DRK is TP so I go for WAR only because of that, but their damage is great, and parsing programs currently don't even parse them correctly and they still keep up.

    I love the "If not killed" for Floor 3, how are you dying? Trying to tank in Deliverance and getting smoked during the swap phase?

    There is already plenty of evidence all over twitch/youtube of all three tanks doing equal off tank DPS. The nice thing about Warrior is the unlimited single target TP, which will probably get nerfed since I doubt you're meant to have unlimited resources, kind of defeats the purpose of having resources.
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  6. #16
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    Jayjohn's Avatar
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    Mia Firestorm
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Cool my 800 dps DRK without slashing debuff says hi to your 800 dps WAR
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  7. #17
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjohn View Post
    Cool my 800 dps DRK without slashing debuff says hi to your 800 dps WAR
    That in i150 pentamelds as well?
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  8. #18
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    Mia Firestorm
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    That in i150 pentamelds as well?
    180 slaying accessories
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  9. #19
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Seems rather pointless.
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  10. #20
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    Tremor Raid
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjohn View Post
    180 slaying accessories
    Then you are clearly supporting the OP's point. A DRK/PLD can not easily out dps a War (with less strength and more survive-ability), and this is an additional supporting example that it is a better off tank than either of the others. This point is already widely accepted.
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    Last edited by tremor24; 07-15-2015 at 11:24 AM.

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