Hurray! Finally saved up 6mil for my personal house!

[Naria]

I hope that they actually take the opportunity with Ishgard to redesign the system a bit. My FC is a small close group that has a house (and we all scrambled like mad to make sure we were ready when they opened the second set of wards) but I feel for the people who don't have access to housing for whatever reason.

Personal housing should have always been instanced, not in the wards. Even if they just do an XI style mog-room "apartment" in Ishgard and add flower pots and a chocobo stable npc where you can "rent" a stall in the stable there it would be a great improvement.

It could even make sense lore-wise since given its structure, I doubt most people in Ishgard live in homes like what are in the wards or like the Fortemps have anyways.

They can still add wards too, for those who want that.

[Spy]

IMO, I still stand by my feeling that they can keep FC houses neighborhood'd, but it'd be cool if personal houses were instanced...but that's just me.

[Kaedan]

Yeah, the way they do personal housing makes absolutely zero logical sense.

It makes sense for FC housing to work the way it does now. I get that. But personal housing should be instanced, just like your mog house was in FFXI. This is one thing Wildstar does right.

[MageBlack]

I agree with the above two posters 110%

[AnaviAnael]

I'm really hoping when they release Ishgardian housing that they'll have the sense to add more small houses. These are the ones that sell out the fastest since they're the most affordable by the general population.

[MageBlack]

I really miss how "Mr. Housing" Wada was so excited and positive about housing. I wonder, if he was still with the game, would he have fought for some of the changes talked about in this thread (and many others). Please, Yoshi-P, More needs to be done than just the addition of Ishgard Housing. Please Please Please acknowledge it. Don't need a detailed plan of attack, simply say "we realize there are some issues with availability in the housing wards of the highly populated servers. While we cannot release details we are in the process of reevaluating the situation. Please look forward to it."

[Shougun]

I hope SE doesn't see this as a low priority because it is just vanity, as it is not (not only special features but housing can pay for itself via gardening, a passive income that is not difficult to keep in cycle).

I know I've said it before but imo instance housing would be so much better - I have faith if SE had a system like Rift or Wildstar they'd make it much better. small city, chocobo ranch, wizard tower, blissful house on the beach, mog island w.e... So much power could be had - and everyone could partake. At least personally if there was that much power I'd bet FC would want to join in too. I know I said before a neighborhood effect could be quite neat but I didn't imagine SE would do it like this... xD, I thought more like sharing a zone rifty style.

If they ever got to the point where everyone wanted a realm instead of the hamlet system- I think it could be very cute to instead of wasting the resource they make it an NPC village, could even make it a bit Dark Cloud and be sort of a Mayor for the town lol.

Also the feeling of having a place to call home is incredible.. so I believe SE should consider making appartments in the city with a very low quality one being free via MSQ with moogle! (then linking the door to your FC, if you purchase a magical portal door for 300K).

Anyway, hope the silence is fear of their system not being completely awesome and looking into ways to fix it*. Technically they can just add more hamlets as needed (bit like Lotr), but I drool over the possibility of being able to basically have a simplified creator's toolkit (about half my ElderScrolls time is inside the toolkit and not even playing the game xD).

*Silence as in they haven't said "this is an issue that we intend to solve asap" but have said something like "we want to improve the housing system before we add more houses, also we have no idea when we will add more". Can argue that isn't silence but I'd still say it is an undesirable acknowledgment of an issue.

[MageBlack]

I hope SE doesn't see this as a low priority because it is just vanity, as it is not (not only special features but housing can pay for itself via gardening, a passive income that is not difficult to keep in cycle).

I know I've said it before but imo instance housing would be so much better - I have faith if SE had a system like Rift or Wildstar they'd make it much better. small city, chocobo ranch, wizard tower, blissful house on the beach, mog island w.e... So much power could be had - and everyone could partake. At least personally if there was that much power I'd bet FC would want to join in too. I know I said before a neighborhood effect could be quite neat but I didn't image SE would do it like this... xD, I thought more like sharing a zone rifty style.

Absolutely! Between Choco-colouring, Gardening, Furnishing, Buffs, and now the new FC flight stuff and Group Crafting, people without homes are getting shut out of more and more content. There is also 0 consideration to new players. I have to agree that instanced "Personal" housing would be much better. Make it a MSQ reward somewhere in the 3.X or even as far off as the 4.X series. You gain your own plot of land that is cluttered and looks like shit. You have to clear the rocks, trees, etc to make room for your house. The plot size can be upgradable, House size can be upgradable, you can place a garden patch, a Choco stable, etc on your land. You can invite people to come to your house, you can have open invitation to people you trust and they can do small things like water the garden for you but nothing major like move furniture. There are so many more possibilities with a separate instance for personal housing, easier to add in more server room as it is needed, linked to the account, one plot per character (or even do it server wide for all chrs on that server for that account), etc.

But...

Leave FC housing the way it is, keep the amount of plots we currently have, Don't even need to change the price, only remove the personal homes from the equation. FC homes are fine as it is, the problem came when personal homes were thrown in the mix. I think the addition of instanced personal homes would really solve all issues people are having with houses.

If they ever got to the point where everyone wanted a realm instead of the hamlet system they have I think it could be very cute to instead of wasting the resource to make it an NPC village, could even make it a bit Dark Cloud and be sort of a Mayor for the town lol.

Also the feeling of having a place to call home is incredible.. so I believe SE should consider making appartments in the city with a very low quality one being free via MSQ with moogle! (then linking the door to your FC, if you purchase a magically portal door for 300K).

I'm kind of against the "apartment" idea. It's not different than a slightly larger Inn room that we already have and will not meet the expectations many people have in mind when they think personal house. The hamlet idea also sounds like something better suited for an offline game or to be the mayor of a beast tribe that is trying to establish themselves. I like the Idea of Hamlets being reintroduced but not linked to player housing.

Anyway, hope the silence is fear of their system not being completely awesome and them knowing it and hopefully looking into ways to fix it. Technically can just add more hamlets as needed (bit like Lotr), but I drool over the possibility of being able to basically have a simplified creator's toolkit (about half my ElderScrolls time is inside the toolkit and not even playing the game xD).

I too hope that no news means good news but throw us a bone. Give us a glimmer of hope. You have no idea how hard it is to explain FFXIV housing to someone who's thinking of playing and actually sound excited about it. "You can do all these things with a house! Its amazing! But you can throw out any hope of owning one cause you werent playing the game and hording millions of gill since its launch."

[Shougun]

Leave FC housing the way it is, keep the amount of plots we currently have, Don't even need to change the price, only remove the personal homes from the equation. FC homes are fine as it is, the problem came when personal homes were thrown in the mix. I think the addition of instanced personal homes would really solve all issues people are having with houses.

I'm kind of against the "apartment" idea. It's not different than a slightly larger Inn room that we already have and will not meet the expectations many people have in mind when they think personal house. The hamlet idea also sounds like something better suited for an offline game or to be the mayor of a beast tribe that is trying to establish themselves. I like the Idea of Hamlets being reintroduced but not linked to player housing.

*touch touch*... :P Just my imo that if they made a fully featured instance system that guilds would like to have their own "rift" too (and at that point hamlets would become less and less used). Was thinking of a Dark Cloud system mostly because we will continue to grow in power and running an area as a leader might make sense (like Duelle posted a team system not long ago). So yes it does sound like a sRPG feature because I was thinking Suikoden and Dark Cloud lol. Also I wasn't thinking about it but, WoW's garrison is sort of like this (blacksmith here, john's house there, look better than WoW - check check).

I too hope that no news means good news but throw us a bone. Give us a glimmer of hope. You have no idea how hard it is to explain FFXIV housing to someone who's thinking of playing and actually sound excited about it. "You can do all these things with a house! Its amazing! But you can throw out any hope of owning one cause you werent playing the game and hording millions of gill since its launch."

Lol, pretty much what you have to say. "Whats housing precious?" "Its great but you can't have it" "I'll make the gil! I'll work hard!" "Doesn't matter, just drop the dream now".

[Wings]

I haven't really been following this thread and just poked my head in at random, but a thought struck me when reading a few posts...

Many want Ishgard housing, but Ishgard and surrounding areas are locked behind 2.x (areas behind most of 3.0), so anyone joining an FC that has a house there would be locked away from the house. But what if they were to add personal housing only in those places? It might make some higher leveled people move out of the existing wards, leaving spaces for FC's to have plots and houses. Not a perfect solution, but a way to ease the pressure a bit, perhaps?