Suggestion: Dark Knight Revamp (Yes I know another one)

[Domira]

Everyone asking for LNC cross-class skills? Please, for everyone sakes, NO. If Dark Knight gets Blood for Blood, we will just end up with even more derpknights than we do right now. Skills that make tanks take more damage are not viable.

I fail to understand how you are blaming a skill (blood for blood) for a person's actions. If some not so smart tank decides to use blood for blood while MTing, then how is that the fault of the skill? You are right skills that cause a tank to take more damage are not viable, that's why a OT would use it because they are not tanking.

[Sentenza]

I fail to understand how you are blaming a skill (blood for blood) for a person's actions. If some not so smart tank decides to use blood for blood while MTing, then how is that the fault of the skill? You are right skills that cause a tank to take more damage are not viable, that's why a OT would use it because they are not tanking.

It's not the skill's fault, no one's making it out that way, it's just realistically speaking there's gonna be people out there that CC blood for blood and use it poorly if the option is given to them, it would be better to just not have it be apart of the equation.

[Hanz]

Same here. We need QoL changes, nothing more.

EDIT: And a fix to that Darkside glitch, that alone is the only thing driving me nuts about the class right now. A single WHM in the party using Regen and Medica II during mobs completely destroys my MP.

That is more of a visual glitch your actual mp use/regen is no more or less the only time it will affect you is when you have 1500 mp and it ticks down meaning you can't use DA or if you are low on mp and it removes dark side but it doesn't drain your mp
Like everyone thinks it does.

[Ditto]

That is more of a visual glitch your actual mp use/regen is no more or less the only time it will affect you is when you have 1500 mp and it ticks down meaning you can't use DA or if you are low on mp and it removes dark side but it doesn't drain your mp
Like everyone thinks it does.

If it's capable of keeping you from using your skills or can disable Darkside......

It drains your MP.

[Hanz]

If it's capable of keeping you from using your skills or can disable Darkside......

It drains your MP.

It doesn't, test it. The ticks are just the server updating twice. Test it for 20 seconds yourself with dark side on auto attacking a dummy. Then get a whm to regen you while auto attacking the dummy. The end mp result is the same. As I said the only problem comes because of the double update where you see the drain and the tick up instead of just the slow drain of mp your expecting. This can mean abilities can't be used like you said but it's not draining any more pm than usual.

[Domira]

It's not the skill's fault, no one's making it out that way, it's just realistically speaking there's gonna be people out there that CC blood for blood and use it poorly if the option is given to them, it would be better to just not have it be apart of the equation.

Then don't group with them.

[Allyrion]

They probably won't want BfB on DRK even though it can be used for smart play.
The way SE talked about using HP as a DRK for skills, makes me think they don't want things that don't fit a tank's primary role (like a skill that increases damage taken).
No denying it would be useful, though, for off-tanking if used well.
Player opinion can go either way on this, but it's just unlikely they'll let it through.

That doesn't need to hold back LNC cross class though.
They can just allow Lancer CC while not including DRK on the BfB list. In case we forget, cross class skills don't come part and parcel.
The skills themselves designate which classes/jobs can take from them.

LNC would be great, but unfortunately it also seems like a stretch to change our cross class at this point.
It would help a lot though.

[Domira]

They probably won't want BfB on DRK even though it can be used for smart play.
The way SE talked about using HP as a DRK for skills, makes me think they don't want things that don't fit a tank's primary role (like a skill that increases damage taken).

GLA has access to BfB. So I don't feel that what you are saying is what SE is thinking.

[Allyrion]

GLA has access to BfB. So I don't feel that what you are saying is what SE is thinking.

Classes don't really count. GLA isn't PLD, so it's pretty irrelevant.
The classes are meant to get everything, the jobs are meant to pigeon hole into roles.

Not saying I know what they're thinking, either. Just that they've stated their against that sort of thing directly already.
It's not necessarily the same, but it's at least some indication.

[Sentenza]

Then don't group with them.

Tell that to Duty Finder.