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  1. #11
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    I don't know who all the real good FC/Groups are out there, but if that one is one of the good ones they'll be one of the ones to do so before severe overgearing I assume.
    Uh... Blue Garter are only the ones who beat Final Coil in it's first week in all crafted armor. Overmelded, but it was all crafted.
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Uh... Blue Garter are only the ones who beat Final Coil in it's first week in all crafted armor. Overmelded, but it was all crafted.
    So they'll probably beat it quickly here too then, overmelded gear or not (and first week or not.)
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    If you're having bad luck on rolls in the DF, then use PF, shout about, or find a static.
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    not really, while hard made alex will probably be that way, but when alex hard mode comes out the new tomes come out with better gear then we currently have with the estorics tomes.
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    Kori Fleming
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    First few floor will probably be tuned low, i170-ish (not like NM where i170 is overgearing it), and then get higher and higher from there. Mainly depends on the DPS checks and how tightly it's tuned.

    24man raid will be low, like i160 or something. Easier than Alex NM or about the same.

    Primals will probably be i170-ish if we get them in 3.1.

    Just guesses but I doubt anything will be tuned too high, except F3 and F4 Savage.
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Uh... Blue Garter are only the ones who beat Final Coil in it's first week in all crafted armor. Overmelded, but it was all crafted.
    No they did't, only Lucrezia and Collision beat it the first week, BG had world 4th, after DnT.
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  7. #17
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    Alvis Yune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    No they did't, only Lucrezia and Collision beat it the first week, BG had world 4th, after DnT.
    This. Blue Garter did world first Twintania I believe though, and possible Nael as well. But Lucrezia were world first in Final Coil.

    That said, I don't expect them to one-week this. They've described Alexander Savage as "harder than a theoretical Final Coil (Savage)". If this holds true I fully expect groups to barely be able to clear one or two floors in the first week simply due to the lack of relevant gear.

    Also to the OP, I seriously doubt the next chunk of 4-man dungeons will require near perfect gear, new tomes available or no.
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  8. #18
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    No they did't, only Lucrezia and Collision beat it the first week, BG had world 4th, after DnT.
    You are absolutely right. Heh, used to Blue Garter being in the limelight that I kind of glossed over who did what. Still was an impressive feat using gear that would later be deemed by Square to be below the iL requirement.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    You are absolutely right. Heh, used to Blue Garter being in the limelight that I kind of glossed over who did what. Still was an impressive feat using gear that would later be deemed by Square to be below the iL requirement.
    I'm pretty sure their left-side gear didn't make a ton of difference, crafted or no. At least not compared to their accessories, which made a world of difference. Heck, leveling my tanks I use my old melded i110 set (DF healers make me cry sometimes) even in the Library. Can't use it after 60 due to the ilv requirement (though really...full STR or maybe 1 or 2 VIT accessories if you have a bad healer is fine in the 60 dungeons, so...)
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    Eva Earlong
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    Where did it say Alex hard won't be in DF? It's just like those who said Alex story would be full party and you couldn't que solo for it. I won't believe that Alex hard won't be in DF till I see proof especially after I was told about Alex story being required full party and not solo.
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