As a male gamer, thank you for not oversexualizing every female NPC

[Reinha]

And here we go again.

Geez, relax. The person was just correcting some misinformation about proper terms.

i hope for the day when people don't get labeled for having their females characters wear revealing clothing. A day where you can just enjoy the style without being criticized for sexualizing your avatar. (which isn't it at all) The obsession with sexualization of everything in the west is toxic and every time i see a post like this i get disappointed. I enjoy a lot of the more revealing clothing since it has a little elegance and simplicity to it. where you see skin and sex i see beauty and nature. I think there should be a large variety of options, not limited because some people might be offended or feel the need to have some sort of false moral high ground.

Very well said. I think phrases like ”too revealing”, ”overly sexy” or ”slutty” refer to a sort of (trying to use neutral words here) prudish/modest attitude that I'm not used to being around. To me, being comfortable with both seeing and showing the human body is is normal and I can't get my head around why it is a bad thing to show large areas of beautiful skin. We don't cover hair, eyes or the mouth either and in the right context they can be sexual too, so I guess I don't see the big deal with a belly button, back, thighs or arms showing either. It's just skin, a vital organ.

I had an odd encounter in another game a while back. My character was dressed in glorious golden battle plate wear that showed off her pale as moonlight skin, and a golden crown to complement the long flowing hair and to bring attention to her stern warrior's gaze. (Sorry got carried away, she was fabulous lol. ) Anyway, this one player gets really cheeky and starts saying things like "how come you don't have hypothermia yet" and "that wedgie must be uncomfortable"... Like, why can't you just mind your own business... You don't see me asking how bad it smells under that armor after a day of battle and how long it takes to do your... uh... personal business, when you have to take off all that armor and put it back on. Just keep those thoughts to yourself as is polite to do. <____<

More on the original topic though. Fighter NPCs are indeed quite practically dressed and the game also shows some skin on non-fighter NPCs, so it's a nice middle ground. My favourite NPC outfits are Rowena 2.0, 2.4 and 3.0, V'kebbe, Serendipity (especially the hair), Minfilia, Ser Aymeric, Cid, Ysayle (again dat hair) and Admiral Merlwyb.

Edit. How could I forget Y'shtola! Her most recent gear looks awesome.

[Mahri]

"how come you don't have hypothermia yet" and "that wedgie must be uncomfortable".

Psst, hey.

This is what everyone is thinking any time someone runs by in a battle bikini. Especially in Heavensward zones.

Just so you know.

You don't see me asking how bad it smells under that armor after a day of battle and how long it takes to do your... uh... personal business, when you have to take off all that armor and put it back on.

1. You aren't smelling so pretty yourself after adventuring.

2. A shower washes off the gross. It doesn't wash off the horrific gaping wounds someone dressed that way is likely to sustain in comparison to someone who has placed solid armor entirely between them and horrible monsters that want to kill them.

I mean, if we're gonna nitpick, let's nitpick here.

[Samcaesar]

Actually, nah, keeping on topic here. Putting child-like characters in outfits made for sex appeal is gross end of story, no more discussion with regards to that topic in this thread from me.

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Eeh, I dunno, as a girl, I get a little creeped out, annoyed, and find it a little tiresome (Because so many other games do this >_>) whenever someone is purposefully dressing their girl character in revealing clothing (Like those who tank in bikini tops and such, not necessarily something that just shows off skin in the arms, I normally don't make anything of it, but it's still a good bit annoying. I mean, it's fine to enjoy revealing clothing, but it's just how society works (Hence why things like lingerie can be sold so effectively). Honestly, I agree there should be a large variety of options too, but I find it endlessly irritating whenever the outfits that some "strong warrior killing hordes of monster" looks like something meant clearly for sex appeal and not being protective armor (Or being hyperbolic and going overtly protective with the armor as fantasy tends to do with regards to exaggerating motifs for aesthetic choice). It's doubly irritating whenever the girl's armor is obviously made with different ideas in mind than the boy's version of the same armor. I don't mind it so much whenever we've got options, but I'd personally would love the ability to have some more option for some nice tough, bulking looking armor for my characters who might be the one about to take a beast's claw towards them who are also ranged classes or DoM classes. Ideally I'd think it'd be nice to keep things more practical/overtly protective with the occasional elegant/revealing set for armor, and the reverse for obvious glamour sets (As they normally are basically civilian clothes, but the occasional "Here's an armor set that's a reference to a previous game" one thrown along with it aka the Baron's helm or the two FFXIII sets). It's not necessarily a bad thing to be cautious about the game making more "revealing sets" because 9/10 they're more revealing for girl PCs only, and it's a little immersion breaking when we're suppose to take it seriously as "battle ready" armor.

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Maybe most of the outfit is, but doesn't the girl's set have a weird breast window too, cause pretty sure kunoichi don't have boob windows.

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No one seems to be complaining whenever clothes not meant for fighting doesn't look like armor meant for battle >.>

I mean, I dunno, I find sets like the Demon's Healing set fairly elegant or the one for PVP WHM. I'm not sure how you get the conclusion that "Being covered head to too = no fashion sense", they don't have to be mutually exclusive ideas.
See I dunno I find the Demon's robe of healing

a great example of that (There's also a very nice shirt in Heavensward that I can't remember off the top of my head that'd work just fine with this idea as well). It doesn't go all the way down V neck style, but it does show a good bit of skin around the upper body area, same with stuff like the bunny suit and the one crafting coatee that you mentioned. Heck, as a great example of both "Elegant" and "No skin showing", look at the very ornate and beautiful sets that the various Garlean military leads (Rhitahtyn, Nero, Livia, Gaius).

I'd agree, but change the phrasing to "Don't make every outfit clearly with 'sex appeal' in mind. Don't let that statement prevent you from making more elegant outfits, but don't forget to also make plenty of gear that also very covering and protective." It's all about aesthetics in this game, currently I'd say DoM and ranged classes are far more lacking in the "sets that look protective" over "sets that look elegant and revealing".

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I dunno, I get the want for that, I just wish there were more sets that were covering that didn't look so boring/skin tight. Like I'd kill for some actually metal armor sets for DoM/Ranged classes, because the only thing I can think of at the moment that fits that idea is the Soldiery set for healers (And it's one reskin in Heavensward).

I hope more gear sets get added to the game that suits both out tastes, though.

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I mean, I dunno, there's a difference between just showing off the human body and wearing clothes meant to enhance that sort of sexual appeal, like there's a difference between some girl walking around in a loose tank top and boxers having just woken up, and one wearing lingerie, even if the same amount of skin is being shown. The occasionally belly button and whatever isn't bad per say, but it's a little tacky and all to put on a set of armor meant for battle and see a bunch of skin showing, so personally I'd prefer that sort of stuff stay to casual outfits/glamour gear.

I mean.. It's a little odd to some people if you're wearing basically nothing in snowy areas at night so I don't blame them for raising a brow to it, but I do agree that person should've minded their own business.

I personally really like... putting these in spoilers because of one reason

Lucia's clothes, Y'shtola's older clothes, Alphinaud's new clothes, Yda's clothing is alright ( I like the heavy armor on a fist fighter, just wish she wasn't wearing underwear along with it >_>), Moenbryda (Though I wish she wore some pants too, but w/e)

Can anyone tell me more women in the game in full heavy armor sets? I'm actually having issues trying to think of some though :\

I agree with Y'shtola's nude scene being pretty tasteful, but she was also kinda bathed in blinding light for most of it so she wasn't really nude :P

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No. Please, gawd, no!

Gender neutral outfits are a good thing! Creating gendered versions of every outfit just screws over half the population as one version ALWAYS turns out better than the other, not to mention not everyone of a particular sex wants to wear gendered clothing.

It you want more feminine outfits, ask for them, and let them be made for both male AND female characters!
Anything less is sexist and unfair.

I really agree with this sentiment. If you don't make gender neutral outfits, you kinda end up screwing over half the population then we get to the whole "Girls have more options than men, what the heck SE" situation that people have been talking about.